Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?

[cv643d]

I voted yes, even though lots of para is invested into this project I think it is not what the Amiga we all want is about.

So we want a 2000 dollar "hobby system" or do we want a system worthy of establishing itself as a new mainstream OS and taking out Windows on the desktop?

If Apple could do it so could we, but without strong leadership we are going nowhere.

If X1000 flops and Hyperion runs out of money, perhaps OS falls into new hands with leadership who can vision AmigaOS in the future along the path it was on back in 1994 -to stand beside and in front of Windows not behind- but now in the new millenium.

And even if X1000 flops and OS4.x goes to hell I think we pure Amiga hardcore users wins in the end, that means AROS will keep the torch burning and there will be no confusion what is the no1 NG AmigaOS.

[Karlos]

So we want a 2000 dollar "hobby system" or do we want a system worthy of establishing itself as a new mainstream OS and taking out Windows on the desktop?

If Apple could do it so could we, but without strong leadership we are going nowhere.

I'm sorry, I must have missed the point in history where apple "took out Windows on the desktop". Could you enlighten us as to when that actually happened? I think someone must have forgotten to inform those many system manufacturers that are still shipping PCs pre-installed with Windows that this OS is no longer relevant, to say nothing of people building their own :lol:

[Kesa]

Errm Karlos, are you sure he didn't mean "taking on Windows" as in making an os that is competitive with Windows like Apple did?

I didn't know you can take out Windows on a desktop... :confused:

[Karlos]

Errm Karlos, are you sure he didn't mean "taking on Windows" as in making an os that is competitive with Windows like Apple did

They did? Last time I checked, there were vastly more Windows installations out there than OSX ones, totalling around 85% of the "web client" market share*. Might have something to do with the fact that Windows, for all it's many sins, isn't tied to a single hardware vendor.

*this is basically a measurement based on browser user agent strings, which isn't that reliable due to spoofing (and other issues), but should be roughly ball-park. If anything, the figure is likely to be higher since many business PCs running windows are operating behind strict firewall rules that limit their access or are blocked from accessing the internet all together.

[Kesa]

I was thinking Apple were competitive against Windows in performance not market share.

Besides in my opinion Apple are a more successful company than Microsoft because they only a single company whereas Microsoft need many (hundreds?) of companies to make Windows successful. Maybe my opinion is oriented towards popular culture which i think everyone here will agree that osx has dominance

[kedawa]

So we want a 2000 dollar "hobby system" or do we want a system worthy of establishing itself as a new mainstream OS and taking out Windows on the desktop?

I'll pass on both.

[djrikki]

Actually Kesa thats very true.  Microsoft's future and game plan (even now) relied(es) squarely on hardware manufacturers, the clone wars, driving down prices of IBM PCs.

[tone007]

Microsoft rocks!

[Franko]

Microsoft rocks!

Oooo... you big S&!T stirrer.... :roflmao:

[krashan]

or do we want a system worthy of establishing itself as a new mainstream OS and taking out Windows on the desktop?

And...

I think we pure Amiga hardcore users wins in the end, that means AROS will keep the torch burning and there will be no confusion what is the no1 NG AmigaOS.

AROS taking out Windows on the desktop. Priceless.

[gertsy]

I can't really understand the attitude of those (admittedly few if the poll is to be believed) that want it to fail. Not liking OS4 is fine if you prefer the alternatives, but Trev seems a decent bloke that's put a his time, effort and cash into the project.

Believing it is too expensive and will surely fail as a consequence is a fair opinion but wanting it to fail is just spiteful, plain and simple.

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[dammy]

So we want a 2000 dollar "hobby system" or do we want a system worthy of establishing itself as a new mainstream OS and taking out Windows on the desktop?

Worse then $2000 USD.  Going by what Trevor said, "North of 1500 GBP" that means at 1,500 GBP = $2389 USD with today's rates.  If it's close to 1,900 GBP would hit over $3,000 USD which maybe realistic once you adding in shipping fees (and whatever import fees) to the USA since North American customers won't have to pay England's VAT (20%?).

[Templario]

These 15 votes that they want that AmigaONE X1000 project to fail, show us there are Amiga users that they are bad people, and well, I don't think that people are, but perhaps the same people that want new Pegasos?

[commodorejohn]

So we want a 2000 dollar "hobby system" or do we want a system worthy of establishing itself as a new mainstream OS and taking out Windows on the desktop?

Gah, I am so sick of this notion. Why do people think we have to play at this "well, my market share is bigger than your market share" game? Why do some people think their burning need to slay the industry giant is more important than maintaining a unique identity? I'm not really a fan of Hyperion and there's no way in hell I'd pay that kind of money for a system even if I could afford it, but at least they're not going with this "we have to become exactly like the competition in order to best them, nothing else will do" crap. What's wrong with having a less powerful but unique and interesting system in a niche market?

[amoskodare]

Besides in my opinion Apple are a more successful company than Microsoft because they only a single company whereas Microsoft need many (hundreds?) of companies to make Windows successful. Maybe my opinion is oriented towards popular culture which i think everyone here will agree that osx has dominance

Not in my opinion. If I had to choose only between Apple and Microsoft, then I would choose Microsoft over Apple any day, easily :afro:

[runequester]

remember guys, proprietary software is theft.