Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?

[Tension]

I BELIEVE

You wouldn't happen to be ex-Nortel, would you??

[klx300r]

You wouldn't happen to be ex-Nortel, would you??

nope just love the X1000 poster with "I Believe' at the bottom of it:)..oh and liked the old X-FILES show too;)

Trevor is a great guy to be heading up A-Eon and he is an active member in the community donating to bounties and always showing up at the Amiga shows so I've no doubt that the X1000 will be here :afro:

[Tension]

nope just love the X1000 poster with "I Believe' at the bottom of it:)..oh and liked the old X-FILES show too;)

Trevor is a great guy to be heading up A-Eon and he is an active member in the community donating to bounties and always showing up at the Amiga shows so I've no doubt that the X1000 will be here :afro:

Yea, it's pretty fucked up that some people actually hope this thing fails, and he's hundreds of thousands of pounds out of pocket.

Some sickos on here.

[wawrzon]

nope just love the X1000 poster with "I Believe' at the bottom of it:)..oh and liked the old X-FILES show too;)

Trevor is a great guy to be heading up A-Eon and he is an active member in the community donating to bounties and always showing up at the Amiga shows so I've no doubt that the X1000 will be here :afro:

"i believe..." so now after more than a year i finally got what that "x" was all about. seems it is a thing to be believed and has so much relevance i the real world as the x-files, which is i think quite dumb, boring and repetitive series despite its cult status. but this is pretty much the same about other cults.

[WolfToTheMoon]

and has so much relevance i the real world as the x-files, which is i think quite dumb, boring and repetitive series despite its cult status..

Hold it, Hold it a bit there mister...

The X-files was a terrific show for the first couple of seasons. Later they became repetitive(government, aliens, aliens, government...) and when they moved production to California that was the final straw. But the first few seasons are a masterpiece.

[Karlos]

Hold it, Hold it a bit there mister...

The X-files was a terrific show for the first couple of seasons. Later they became repetitive(government, aliens, aliens, government...)

I can't disagree with that. The show was far more entertaining when it was a different story every week with the occasional recurring character (Eugene Victor Tombs, for example). The whole alien conspiracy thing grew very boring very quickly.

Fringe has sort of picked up the original flavour to a degree, though you have to suspend your disbelief since many of the ideas are so far-fetched...

[klx300r]

Hold it, Hold it a bit there mister...

The X-files was a terrific show for the first couple of seasons. Later they became repetitive(government, aliens, aliens, government...) and when they moved production to California that was the final straw. But the first few seasons are a masterpiece.

gotta agree with you there..once the production left BC, Canada it was all hollywood after that

[Duce]

I hope they do well.  As a realist however, I would be surprised if they even come close to breaking even.  And I am a guy that shelled out well over $1000 for a SAM 440 (with case, PSU, drives, and OS 4).  I was very interested in the x1000 when the news broke, same with the SAM 460.  I really do enjoy buggering around with my SAM.  It's a true pleasure to use, but the costs for this modern hardware is about 5x what is acceptable.

I've suddenly come to the horrible realization that even if my OS 4.1u2 SAM was 9000ghz and had all the promises like the x1000 seems to have on paper, and it could give me a foot massage and all that magical lore the x1000 is advertising - I'm still stuck with subpar OS that is not currently capable of doing what the common man needs a PC to do daily.  Outdated OS4 browsers have me reaching for my iPhone to take up the slack, the SW simply isn't there.

The price point is absolutely insane for 99.99% of their market - which is the hobby user.  People won't pay $2500 for nostalgia factor, but that being said, I hope the enthusiastic coders writing for OS4 keep coding and the platform/OS makes headway.  I enjoy my SAM, and won't be selling it anytime soon, but I'm also not delusional enough to think it can even come close to most "smart" phones in regards to daily use - and daily use in a broad "what most people need to do in 2011" way.

As much as I was put off by the fanboyish MorphOS guys constantly shit talking OS4, it's about dollars and cents, people.  I was very interested in the X1000 originally - until the price was mentioned, and had planned on picking up a SAM 460 until the retail price was released a few days ago.  I now see how attractive the cheapie Mac's and MorphOS are now.

I picked up a Mac Mini for $48 Canadian dollars including shipping off eBay earlier today.  Assuming I like the MorphOS experience once the Mac gets here, it'll cost me $200 (CAD) total investment with the MorphOS reg fee including all the hardware.  If I don't enjoy MorphOS, I can simply use the Mini with the Mac OS or Linux.  It's very hard to argue against the commodity hardware (old PPC mac's, AROS boxes)  aspect when it is a $2500 (x1000/OS 4) vs. a $200 (Mac/MorphOS) situation.

I wish the X1000 the best, but it's sort of a "best of luck, but at that price, you're gonna need more than just luck" deal, lol.

Just my 2 bits, anyways.  Everyone here can probably universally agree that the pricepoint of the X1000 is a huge stumbling block in regards to how it will be accepted.

[Hans_]

I BELIEVE :afro::uzi:

You believe in big afros, wearing bandanas and firing uzis?

:rofl:

EDIT: Oops, I forgot about the shades...

[XDelusion]

What sort of person would be a member of Amiga.org and desire for anything related to the Amiga legacy to fail? I know some prefer OS 4 over MorphOS and vice versa. And some really take to AROS, but why for the love of midget sex would you want anything Amiga to fail?

[Buzzfuzz]

Yea, it's pretty fucked up that some people actually hope this thing fails, and he's hundreds of thousands of pounds out of pocket.
 
Some sickos on here.

Well I'm not hoping it will fail, but it will fail if it's price is too high.
Amiga's are just a hobby for the most of us and over 1500 euro's for a machine that is just going to run OS4.1 is a bit of price tag for a hobby machine.
 
Yeah maybe sell my Cyberstorm and Cybervision, I would be 2/3 there I guess

[dammy]

.  It's very hard to argue against the commodity hardware (old PPC mac's, AROS boxes)  aspect when it is a $2500 (x1000/OS 4) vs. a $200 (Mac/MorphOS) situation.

I wouldn't be shocked by the time all the parts are added up and AmiKit's cut, that the final retail price (hardware, OS and shipping) will be around $3000 USD or a bit higher.

wish the X1000 the best, but it's sort of a "best of luck, but at that price, you're gonna need more than just luck" deal, lol.

Just my 2 bits, anyways.  Everyone here can probably universally agree that the pricepoint of the X1000 is a huge stumbling block in regards to how it will be accepted.

That is why it's not a real competitor to SAMs. It's either you can afford one or you can't, end of story.

[dammy]

Well I'm not hoping it will fail, but it will fail if it's price is too high.
Amiga's are just a hobby for the most of us and over 1500 euro's for a machine that is just going to run OS4.1 is a bit of price tag for a hobby machine.
 
Yeah maybe sell my Cyberstorm and Cybervision, I would be 2/3 there I guess

It's "North of 1,500 GBP" and not in EUROs.

[EDanaII]

Does it matter what currency it's expressed in? As far as I'm concerned it's north of too damn much.

A shame, really, as I'd love to invest in Amiga again, but not at that price.

[Karlos]

I can't really understand the attitude of those (admittedly few if the poll is to be believed) that want it to fail. Not liking OS4 is fine if you prefer the alternatives, but Trev seems a decent bloke that's put a his time, effort and cash into the project.

Believing it is too expensive and will surely fail as a consequence is a fair opinion but wanting it to fail is just spiteful, plain and simple.

[zylesea]

What sort of person would be a member of Amiga.org and desire for anything related to the Amiga legacy to fail?

I think the question is not phrased very well. Dunno about the other 12 ppl (yet) who voted 'yes', but I did because I think this x1000 project is like approaching a wall with a car on full speed and still accelerating...
Early this milenium the approach of new ppc hardware was okay (Genesi did a rother good job on this), but since Apple left ppc it is more than difficult in ppc land. There are options but they are very different to the X1000 approach (I think Acube does is a bit more on track, but still there is *a lot* in particular highly debateable with their approach, but at least it is way better than the A-eon approach).
All in all the boat has sailed pretty much, it is important to change the strategy. The sooner the better. Hence, the earlier the X1000 fiasco gets overcome the better. IMHO überexpensive delayed mid-class hardware (for which it is doubtful when and if drivers will work sufficiently, look to the recent problems of the Sams) is just not the way forward.
I would be pretty interested if the other 'yes' voters see the things similar or if they had other reasons to vote 'yes'.