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Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« on: January 28, 2011, 07:46:34 AM »
No, pancake option, simple question, time to answer. If you could explain why, as i see it all they are trying to do is to give us the best OS4 machine they can, doesn't matter about price, or os4 should be on cheaper mac hardware or it should be ported off ppc etc, this is what they are trying, weather you agree its the right decision or not, is not really what I'm after more of reason why you want it to fail, example so that OS4 does go the mac root, so OS4 fails etc.

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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2011, 07:58:42 AM »
Missing who cares option...
 

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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2011, 08:34:52 AM »
Quote from: zipper;610062
Missing who cares option...
if that true then why post or even click on a tread about a subject you dont care about. You must be bad on the internet, posting on all them obscure web site no one cares about.

I've not had a good night sleep so forgive me if I'm coming across as an ass hole, in a bad mood this morning, was nearly not going to post this, but guess I decided differently as otherwise you wouldn't be reading this.....god i must be a bit crazy this morning. :laughing:

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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2011, 08:50:42 AM »
Who cares would probably fall into "No" in my opinion. To click yes implies you have an interest/opinion on the matter.  :)

I dont think many people will select yes, Im not really sure why you'd think it'd be pollworthy. Even those people that think A1x1000 is overpriced/underspecced/the wrong move/whatever I'd like to think arent nasty enough to want someone from the communities efforts, time and money to fail. The negativity in general towards it I think is more because it's so average/normal/whatever, and spec wise, a bit underwhelming. Yes, AmigaOS and its variants are typically pretty efficient. The OSes themselves are super responsive and quick on slow hardware, but this rule doesnt often apply for the software running on said OSes. CPU intensive software is just as cpu intensive on Amiga OS as it is elsewhere.

So, my take on it alll is nice effort, but not what Im after in a modern amiga, especially not for the proposed price.

Anyway, sorry for going slightly off topic, my brain when on a tangent and my fingers followed  :)
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2011, 08:53:16 AM »
In my opinion it will fail regardless if I want it or not. And why should I have bad wishes for A-Eon? I've voted "No" then.

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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2011, 08:54:16 AM »
I would never buy one and do think it's a slightly pointless exercise, but there's no way I want it to fizzle out or fail...
 

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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2011, 08:58:48 AM »
How about this for a fun poll:

Would you be more inclined to purchase an X1000 if you could run MorphOS on it?

Although I could probably never afford one, that would make it the ultimate machine for me being able to run both OSs. Getting Aros ported to it would be nice too, and is probably more likely.
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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2011, 09:05:24 AM »
I voted "no".
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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2011, 09:26:50 AM »
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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2011, 09:34:05 AM »
Quote from: zipper;610062
Missing who cares option...


I agree.

And as my or your opinion about it will matter anyway, it *will* fail, no matter if people wants it to or not...
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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2011, 09:43:23 AM »
Quote from: Cammy;610083


How about this for a fun poll:

Would you be more inclined to purchase an X1000 if you could run MorphOS on it?

Although I could probably never afford one, that would make it the ultimate machine for me being able to run both OSs. Getting Aros ported to it would be nice too, and is probably more likely.



I voted "No" and would even be more inclined to buy an A1 X1k if it ran MOS as well and - if possible - AROS and LINUX, too.

EDIT:
If it ran MOS I could take advantage of the USB 2.0 highspeed in the A1 X1k, while all flavours of OS 4.1 still lack USB 2.0 highspeed support.
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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2011, 09:45:20 AM »
Eventually decided to vote 'yes'. *Not* because I would wish Trevor (or others) bad things (why should I?). But I don't think it is a sustainable business model and the quicker pipe dreams come to an end the saner. It is überexpensive, it is strongly delayed, it uses an EOL mid class very rare cpu - to sum it up: it is the wrong approach.
Or to phrase my intention why I voted 'yes' in German: "Lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken als ein Schrecken ohne Ende" (It's better to make a painful break than draw out the agony).
But if the X1000 eventually arrives and sells in significant numbers I'll take a bow.

Edit: to avoid misunderstandings: I voted 'yes' in the manner of a *quick* end. I am pretty sure the X1000 project is a desaster and will fail eventually (actually it is failed already IMHO: delayed, expensive, bad design choice). The quicker it comes to a complete end the better for proceeding then on greener grounds. If it takes ages and ages it will only bind capacity and eventually yield nowhere anyway. Hence the 'yes' is meant in a most constructive way.

I like to note that I see things different for Acube's business model: While I have lots of critics for them in particular details I think they are some kind of on track. The products get better and they seem to be rather grounded.

All in all I think it would be best if OS4 jumps to x86 or ARM. And that's true for MorphOS, too. Albeit there are some nice ppc announcemnts by Freescale staying ppc on the long term is at best "problematic".
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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2011, 09:56:42 AM »
Quote from: Cammy;610083
Would you be more inclined to purchase an X1000 if you could run MorphOS on it?


I don't think so, because it doesn't offer that much more than current MorphOS hardware, especially with the price. Of course it would be interesting to have option to run both OSes, but not at that cost.

Anyway I voted no. Trevor is cool and all the best, but I'm afraid it's going to be too few's fun even if they get it pulled together finally.
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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2011, 10:16:51 AM »
Well the whole point of the thread is just that I been reading a lot of message from users all picking faults with AmigaONE and OS4 in general, but from their tone it was hard to work out if they wanted to see it successful or if they just wanted the whole thing to fail. I just wanted to see how many really wanted the project to just fail and explain why.  
 
I'm pleased to see so many not just wanting the idea or project to just fail, even if they think it completely daft/nuts/crazy etc. Thank you for your answers so far, even yours zylesea at least you explained your vote, I hope the other people who vote yes do as well. It might help understand what some people would like to see happen next (after the x1000 success or failure).
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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2011, 10:19:35 AM »
No, why would anyone want to fail at something especially if its their passion and they stand to loose money.  
 
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