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Re: SAM 460 poor performance, high price
« Reply #74 on: January 27, 2011, 01:57:31 PM »
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No longer in production HW and the knowledge that no HW will ever be made again count as having no future, HW wise.

Now you're just making things up.

Nowhere have I said that we will limit ourself to Mac HW forever. It is currently and in the near future the best solution, however.

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Some care about it, some, like you, does not.

There's no need to get personal. What I care or don't care is irrelevant, nor can you read my mind. If you really respect my views you don't need to do this.
 

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Re: SAM 460 poor performance, high price
« Reply #75 on: January 27, 2011, 02:00:49 PM »
I likee Windows 7 its a good OS.  Get over it microsoft haters.
 
And I may be wrong but Im pretty sure the sam boards were not created specfically for AOS4.   So  AOS4 has had no new hardware since AmigaOne and its been ported to a MorphOS board :)
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Re: SAM 460 poor performance, high price
« Reply #76 on: January 27, 2011, 02:02:55 PM »
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Other like the feeling of being as different as it gets, so that need is further satisfied if you develop HW and have your OS run on it.

Building expensive, slow and rare HW just to be exotic and different from everyone else doesn't sound a good strategy to me. But I suppose that can be seen as a value by some.
 

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Re: SAM 460 poor performance, high price
« Reply #77 on: January 27, 2011, 02:16:39 PM »
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Building expensive, slow and rare HW just to be exotic and different from everyone else doesn't sound a good strategy to me. But I suppose that can be seen as a value by some.


Isn't it just as insane as making crappy os'es that's lightyears behind the rest? but i suppose that can be seen as a value by some.
 

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Re: SAM 460 poor performance, high price
« Reply #78 on: January 27, 2011, 02:20:14 PM »
@Piru
There was no ill intention in that "like you" comment of mine, it was just for example sake, like "I care" "you don't" "he might", lazily worded (I should have included the other examples too to be more clear), I apologize for that.
 

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Re: SAM 460 poor performance, high price
« Reply #79 on: January 27, 2011, 02:32:48 PM »
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Isn't it just as insane as making crappy os'es that's lightyears behind the rest? but i suppose that can be seen as a value by some.

 
Are you saying the MorphOS is lightyears behind other OS and crappy ?
 
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Re: SAM 460 poor performance, high price
« Reply #80 on: January 27, 2011, 02:40:50 PM »
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Are you saying the MorphOS is lightyears behind other OS and crappy ?
 
Some examples please

I didn't mention Morphos at all,Why should i?  we all know how advanced it is.
 

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Re: SAM 460 poor performance, high price
« Reply #81 on: January 27, 2011, 02:40:58 PM »
@JJ
He probably meant that all Amiga like OS are not on par with the likes of Windows7 (ie:SMP, 64BIT memory in the Gigabytes, DX11 with tesselation support and an endless list of other features) but we still care.
Some search for a particular thing some for another (such as original HW+SW combo) and they see more value in a flavor or another.
Maybe we should respect each other a little more.
Yes Mos is more mature, yes AOS is evolving and offers the custom HW/OS thing some like very much.
Mos might get new HW in the future, as Piru said it's not out of the question, AOS might mature a lot with SMP, new 3D subsystem and so on.

Long live Amiga in all of its flavors :)
 

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Re: SAM 460 poor performance, high price
« Reply #82 on: January 27, 2011, 02:47:34 PM »
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Long live Amiga in all of its flavors :)


Indeed :)

And personally I like the fact that SAM systems are available. And I like that fact that AOS is AOS and not a copy/rip of some other OS.
 

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Re: SAM 460 poor performance, high price
« Reply #83 on: January 27, 2011, 03:04:46 PM »
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Indeed :)
 
And personally I like the fact that SAM systems are available. And I like that fact that AOS is AOS and not a copy/rip of some other OS.

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Re: SAM 460 poor performance, high price
« Reply #84 on: January 27, 2011, 03:08:28 PM »
I think all the different flavor is good.  MorphOS is good.  Aros is good, OS4 is good.  Heck 3.1 is good.  The future was bleak after the collapse.  Having a lot of different people in a lot of different camps is good!  All of you are right and valid.  Arguing with a MorphOS developer (ie Piru) that his choice is dumb is...well...dumb!

I second the "Long Live Amiga in all its forms!"

Oh, and anything over 3.1 isn't Amiga :roflmao:
 

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Re: SAM 460 poor performance, high price
« Reply #85 on: January 27, 2011, 03:19:16 PM »
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Isn't it just as insane as making crappy os'es that's lightyears behind the rest?

Yes.

Luckily the OS I'm making isn't crappy.
 

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Re: SAM 460 poor performance, high price
« Reply #86 on: January 27, 2011, 03:22:18 PM »
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And I may be wrong but Im pretty sure the sam boards were not created specfically for AOS4.


That's a good question. Quite often the argument gets thrown in that Acube delivers to some embedded market. Yet I never saw evidence that Acube is *really* delivering (say at leat 25% of their produced boards) to industrial customers.

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Re: SAM 460 poor performance, high price
« Reply #87 on: January 27, 2011, 03:25:00 PM »
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Isn't it just as insane as making crappy os'es that's lightyears behind the rest? but i suppose that can be seen as a value by some.

Define crappy.
Whom do you actually have in mind who's making a crappy OS?

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Re: SAM 460 poor performance, high price
« Reply #88 on: January 27, 2011, 03:33:30 PM »
its a shame the ppc guys are not making boards like the pandaboard does arm from TI.

imagine for $180, dual core 1ghz, 1gb ram, opengl es 2.0, blue tooth, wireless, onboard ethernet, sd card slot, dvi/hdmi out in tiny formfactor size..

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Re: SAM 460 poor performance, high price
« Reply #89 from previous page: January 27, 2011, 04:08:40 PM »
Apart from blue tooth and the specs being too low you've just described AROS on x86  :)
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.