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Subway USB questions
« on: January 17, 2011, 05:23:49 AM »
Anyone have this device?

What have you used it for, and how did it work?

Things I am possibly interested in using it for:

USB storage
CD ROM drive or burner
Ethernet adapter
Printer (if possible)

I know the speed isn't going to be amazing, so curious what it will work for.
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Re: Subway USB questions
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2011, 06:35:37 AM »
Quote from: runequester;607232
Anyone have this device?

What have you used it for, and how did it work?

Things I am possibly interested in using it for:

USB storage
CD ROM drive or burner
Ethernet adapter
Printer (if possible)

Subway is really nice and you won't regret buying it...

The max speed up the subway(on a real a1200 clockport) is about 250K/sec. Having Poseidon enabled (with USB mouse plugged in) I noticed that sysinfo reports 33mhz vs the normal 40mhz. I have a Typhoon 030/40 accel.

I have used it with USB flash drives, external hard disks and it works well cheap USB mice(both wired and wireless)

I did try it with a more expensive (high-resolution) laser mouse and I noticed sysinfo reported 25mhz consistently.  I'd suggest a cheap Logitech.

It will work with USB DVD/CD drives, however the performance is not great. Also, Poseidon seems to conflict with games...

I would pick up a compatible PCMCIA card for networking. I'm sure it will be faster.

For better CD-ROM speed/compatibility check out how I added a SATA port to my A1200.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=53499&highlight=sata+1200+bbond007

So, in conclusion, if you are willing to spend $220, you should get a subway, a PCMCIA network adapter (wireless or wired) and add a SATA port for your DVD/CD. That way you are not trying to run EVERYTHING through a 250K/sec bottleneck.
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Re: Subway USB questions
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2011, 06:43:24 AM »
yeah, stuffing too much on the clockport Im sure would get problematic.

I can live without burning CD's if it can read them at least. Main concern is old magazine cover CD's and stuff
 

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Re: Subway USB questions
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2011, 07:00:01 AM »
Subway is very nice :) I've used it mainly to transfer files with a 4GB USB stick, works a treat. I've tried a mouse for fun and it worked too.
And it's fun to read the usb-messages in Trident prefs :)
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Re: Subway USB questions
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2011, 07:03:07 AM »
hm, being able to use a USB mouse would be nice sometimes.
 

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Re: Subway USB questions
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2011, 07:14:56 AM »
Remember you must disable Poseidon (Subway stack) when using WHDLoad so it's only useful with system-friendly programs.
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Re: Subway USB questions
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2011, 07:15:57 AM »
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Remember you must disable Poseidon (Subway stack) when using WHDLoad so it's only useful with system-friendly programs.


Believe it or not, but I may be the last person on earth to not use WHDLoad, so thats not a worry. Appreciate the warning though :)
 

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Re: Subway USB questions
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2011, 07:45:43 PM »
Quote from: runequester;607232
Anyone have this device?

What have you used it for, and how did it work?

Things I am possibly interested in using it for:

USB storage
CD ROM drive or burner
Ethernet adapter
Printer (if possible)

I know the speed isn't going to be amazing, so curious what it will work for.


I've been using SubWay since my tower upgrade a few years ago, and I've loved it so far!  Anyway, for USB storage most thumb-drives I've plugged in seem to work fine, with the exception of U3 "Smart" drives Those also mount as a USB CD-Rom, basically as a means of loading its windows task-launcher via the autorun.inf file. I would disable it, but I've found out how to mount my own image to the "CD-ROM" by mimicking the U3 servers directory structure, and adding a line in the "HOSTS" file along with a web server. >Anyway, the problem with that is Poseidan tries to correct the device size on the fly. (The "smart" drive reports as being 8GB, even though there's a ~600MB .iso file on it that isn't part of the filesystem).
I've not tried any CD-Roms, other than the fake U3 one, but I'm sure it would be slow. I tried a printer once, but didn't have any drivers for it. (An old Lexmark printer)
Ethernet, I wouldn't bother with. As mentioned in a previous post, its gonna be slow. Probably better than dial-up, though. If you still have access to a PCMCIA slot (some accelerators tend to block that due to what I'm guessing was some C= engineers really bad hangover), a 10mbps in there would work alot better. (3COM etherlink II cards worked well for me in the past).
Noticed some stuff about USB mice, if your games multitask, it *should* work, if not, it won't. WHDload chokes on USB, but if you don't use it, its obviously not a big deal. (There's 2 lines you can edit in its prefs to enable/disabe it anyway, tons of threads about that one)
One problem thats really easy to run into, though, is the power. It takes it 5v off the motherboard, which can be a prob with a normal 1200 PSU (or even a 500 one), depending on how much stuff you put in there. I've gotten around this with a self-powered USB hub. The 3 reamaining ports I use for relativly low power stuff. (Memory card reader, a USB extension cable that stands up, and a USB floppy drive. OK, the floppy might be pushing it, but it hasn't been a problem, and I should mention its a really cheap way to be able to read 1.44MB PC-disks)
Also, I've used my CliƩ with it, a couple of generic MP3 players (they mount as removable devices), keyboards (same probs as mouse), digital cameras (also mounts as a hard-drive), joysticks (again the mouse/keyboard probs, not sure what the point in this would be, though I use a playstation dvd-remote+playstation to USB adapter as a task launcher), and I think I tried a USB microphone once.
The only probs I've not been able to get around are with flatbed scanners, webcams, (driver issues) wifi cards (poseidon didn't know what the hell to do with it), and various odds and ends (stuff I found in my massive digital pack-rat boxes of stuff my wife wants me to get rid of, basicially "Hey, a usb connection, will this work?") that use weird custom drivers.
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Re: Subway USB questions
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2011, 08:17:34 PM »
These work better with an Amiga than they do with a PC (except for an Aros PC, which uses the same software). You can move them in eight directions with the joystick or control pad and fire the foam rockets at annoying visitors.

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CD32 020@14Mhz/2MB+8MB/RTC/KS3.1/IDE-CF+4GB
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Re: Subway USB questions
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2011, 08:19:21 PM »
Hello there. I have an A3000 machine and use Subway USB via clockport on my X-Surf network card. Setup was real easy. The device functions great. I mainly just use it for thumb drives, although an external USB hard drive worked just as good. After using this Subway, I would never want to have an Amiga without USB.
 

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Re: Subway USB questions
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2011, 08:21:43 PM »
@Cammy

Yeah.. My wife won't let me get one of those. She's worried about the dogs and cat for some reason.
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Re: Subway USB questions
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2011, 08:34:31 PM »
Probably the best thing you can do with your clock port. Look that you have all the cables attached correctly. Then look again.

If you get this, you might be able to use it for your WiFi solution. And then use your PCMCIA slot for cdrom or a FAT16 CF media.
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Re: Subway USB questions
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2011, 09:48:24 PM »
Very reassuring guys, and sounds like a great way to really breathe a lot of life into the amiga :)
 
I decided to go with a PCMCIA option for networking, so the USB will be for storage and possibly CD ROM.
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Re: Subway USB questions
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2011, 01:29:32 AM »
Thanks to the Subway I can control my rocket launcher with my wireless guitar.
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Re: Subway USB questions
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2011, 01:56:55 AM »
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Thanks to the Subway I can control my rocket launcher with my wireless guitar.


:roflmao:

That sounds pretty random :D
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