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Offline valeruTopic starter

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Amiga for Professional Use
« on: January 11, 2011, 08:51:34 AM »
Hi,

It has been a few months that I have started again using the Amiga, but I have to admit that it is just winUAE - my A500 and A4000 are still rusting in my parent's house :-(. One thing that used to put me off from coming back to the Amiga was the fact that my use of a computer has radically changed in the last 15 years.

I now consider a modern web browser and office applications as critical. Because let us be honest if we want the Amiga to resurface it needs power apps and to dust off its retro image.

I am glad to say that I have noticed a step in the right direction, I have installed NetSurf 2.6 on my winUAE machine and I AM impressed :-) It is a very good product and hopefully will continue to be developed. Please make it support msExchange OWA.

Now I only need a good office solution - maybe openoffice. Is there something similar?

Cheers
Valeru
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Re: Amiga for Professional Use
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2011, 08:58:06 AM »
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Now I only need a good office solution - maybe openoffice. Is there something similar?

There's a ongoing port of OpenOffice 4Kids(basically a light edition) for AmigaOS 4.x . I don't know the current status, though.
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Re: Amiga for Professional Use
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2011, 09:05:04 AM »
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I have installed NetSurf 2.6 on my winUAE machine and I AM impressed :-) It is a very good product and hopefully will continue to be developed. Please make it support msExchange OWA.

Netsurf is rather limited still (for example it lacks javascript), and it remains to be seen if it will improve. You need to address the Netsurf authors really, not the amiga port authors.
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Now I only need a good office solution - maybe openoffice. Is there something similar?

I'm afraid there isn't anything similar. Someone with little to no amiga coding experience is working on a port of OOo4Kids but I'm not too confident he'll pull that off.
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Re: Amiga for Professional Use
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2011, 08:40:42 PM »
Not to bash on OO (which I use on my daily driver), but aren't there good WP options out there already for Amiga?  To me, that seems the biggest software market where upgrades are basically GUI improvements as to actual core functionality.
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Re: Amiga for Professional Use
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2011, 08:53:46 PM »
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Someone with little to no amiga coding experience is working on a port of OOo4Kids but I'm not too confident he'll pull that off.


According to this:
http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/EnvironmentSetup/AmigaOS#Build_dmake

He/They are at Milestone 0.2, which was slated for completion around June 2010.
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Re: Amiga for Professional Use
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2011, 09:23:10 PM »
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Not to bash on OO (which I use on my daily driver), but aren't there good WP options out there already for Amiga?  To me, that seems the biggest software market where upgrades are basically GUI improvements as to actual core functionality.


The Amiga's office applications are perfectly functional in their own right (I used WordWorth almost exclusively through college), but exchanging files with other platforms is a nightmare, especially for complex documents.
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Re: Amiga for Professional Use
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 09:23:55 PM »
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The Amiga's office applications are perfectly functional in their own right (I used WordWorth almost exclusively through college), but exchanging files with other platforms is a nightmare, especially for complex documents.

Ah, that makes sense.  Sounds like a good Arexx macro there in the making :D
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Re: Amiga for Professional Use
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2011, 09:25:01 PM »
Interesting thread. Isn't the title a little mis-leading?
The apps we're talking about aren't limited to professional use. Word processing, web surfing, those are applications are common applications everyone uses. When I hear professional use I think CAD (or other design programs), business apps (like inventory, tracking, etc), professional grade music/MIDI programs, etc.
Just getting basic programs of the types you've listed (that have utility to everyone) can be difficult on Amigoid platforms.
I can't see professional grade software being developed. Where's the market?
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Re: Amiga for Professional Use
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2011, 12:06:03 AM »
Well....

Final Writer/Wordsworth is more than enough for crappy unusable M$ Word 2007
Plenty of competent 3D apps (if it was good enough for B5....)
Superbase Professional beats M$ pathetic Access
Scala not Powerpoint
Amiga is excellent at pixel art if 256 colours will do
DTP is acceptable
Music and video editing depends
etc

So what's the problem? There probably was a decent spreadsheet too, but as I refused to use one before 1997 don't ask for a name :) There were plenty for the ST too.

In fact I could port a shitty CRM package we sell for £1500 where I work in weeks to Amiga, give me months and I could do the auto mailshot plugin too :roflmao:

So web browsers aside (which are bugger all to do with work in reality) Amiga is fine.
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Re: Amiga for Professional Use
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2011, 12:45:46 AM »
@Digiman

Be realistic, it would be hard to live in 2011 ad try to use just Amiga.  You'd have to give up so much that it wouldn't be worthwhile for most folks.  15 year old software is missing so much that is in modern software it isn't funny.
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Re: Amiga for Professional Use
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2011, 12:47:53 AM »
Personally I think the Amiga's options for most genres (apart from web browsing) are perfectly fine. The "problem" comes when trying to play along with the rest of the world and dealing with industry standards (standards that arent necessarily better/worse, but standards nonetheless).
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Offline Matt_H

Re: Amiga for Professional Use
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2011, 01:09:05 AM »
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Ah, that makes sense.  Sounds like a good Arexx macro there in the making :D


Not so much an ARexx macro as a tool that reliably converts from .doc/.docx to .ww or .fw, and vice versa. There just isn't one.
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Re: Amiga for Professional Use
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2011, 05:28:47 AM »
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Not so much an ARexx macro as a tool that reliably converts from .doc/.docx to .ww or .fw, and vice versa. There just isn't one.

well, even OO in its latest incarnation doesn't play nice with *gag* .docx...

XML = teh suck
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Re: Amiga for Professional Use
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2011, 05:53:59 AM »
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well, even OO in its latest incarnation doesn't play nice with *gag* .docx...

XML = teh suck


Microsoft office doesn't play nice with office files, so I don't begrudge OO for occasionally hiccuping.

I have far more trouble at work where we have 3 different versions of office, than I do opening stuff from any of the versions in OO
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Re: Amiga for Professional Use
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2011, 06:31:30 AM »
the whole docx thing is just awful.
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