Directly at Franko......

[Amiduffer]

That's too bad.

Does anyone know if Franko had a Bipolar disorder?

The whole thing seems very weird. I do hope he returns.

[Pentad]

mainly because Jesus didn't exist

I promised myself that I wouldn't reply to this but I saw some of the other replies and these kinds of posts make me sad for our society.

The Internet -which has given a voice to millions for many good causes- has also allowed us -as a society- to confuse the line between opinion and fact.  Simply posting something like 'Jesus never existed' or 'Bigfoot is real' requires nothing from the poster, no empirical evidence or even shred of evidence to support your statement.

You can to say it because you feel it and people accept it as fact.  Well, thankfully not everyone...

As university professor -as many professions should and do- you can't blindly make a statement without providing honest, empirical evidence to support your statement.

When I see posts like 'Jesus never existed' I wonder how that is possible in 2011?  Whats next?  Copernicus was wrong and the Sun revolves around the Earth?  The Holocaust was a lie?  Julius Caesar never existed?

Standing in the shadow of hundreds of years of empirical research by thousands of dedicated historical researchers can be dismissed with a simple statement of 'Jesus never existed'.   And I'll be considered the odd ball or troll because of my reply to him...
 
As long as I don't have to provide a shred of empirical evidence, I believe that Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak created the Amiga.

Jesus of Nazareth is probably one of the most proven historical figures in ancient history.  Was he God?  The son of God?  A prophet?  Did he raise people from the dead?  That is an entire different subject and will most likely end in an opinion.

When Ancient Historical Researchers look to prove or disprove a person in history they look at hundreds if not thousands of documents and records (historical method) from that time period that would substantiate a conclusion one way or the other.

And before I read another sentence involving Bigfoot or the Yeti, they both fail the Historical Method test.

Look, I'm not trying to crucify Darrin (no pun intended) but it does bother me that as a society people post statements like this without thinking it through.  I believe everyone in the world has a right to Freedom of Speech but that comes with a great deal of responsibility.  

If I stated in a post that I believe the Earth is flat, that Julius Caesar is a myth, or that the Sun revolved around the Earth, many here would flame me for being ignorant of the facts.

If we don't hold everyone accountable for their statements then what are we teaching the next generation?

-P

[Tuxon86]

The problem you have with Jesus is that there isn't any record of him at the time of his life. All the text referencing him were written at least 70 years after his death at the earliest and by third party account.

Keep in mind that the gospel are ACCORDING to and not WRITTEN by the apostles. Josephus wrote about CHRISTIAN also from third party account. The Romans didn't write anything about Jesus in any of their official correspondence. There is only mention of a christian sect but no mention of Jesus.

Also the Bible was written around 324 by the catholic to push their agenda and impose their flavor of Christianity over the other christian sect mostly the Aryans & the Cathar who didn't recognised the divinity of Jesus.

Jesus of Nazareth looks more like a literary invention to teach morals and religion which can be a good thing if he is used as such. But instead he became a reason to torture and kill millions of people over the years in religious war. A real shame.

I promised myself that I wouldn't reply to this but I saw some of the other replies and these kinds of posts make me sad for our society.

The Internet -which has given a voice to millions for many good causes- has also allowed us -as a society- to confuse the line between opinion and fact.  Simply posting something like 'Jesus never existed' or 'Bigfoot is real' requires nothing from the poster, no empirical evidence or even shred of evidence to support your statement.

You can to say it because you feel it and people accept it as fact.  Well, thankfully not everyone...

As university professor -as many professions should and do- you can't blindly make a statement without providing honest, empirical evidence to support your statement.

When I see posts like 'Jesus never existed' I wonder how that is possible in 2011?  Whats next?  Copernicus was wrong and the Sun revolves around the Earth?  The Holocaust was a lie?  Julius Caesar never existed?

As long as I don't have to provide a shred of empirical evidence, I believe that Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak created the Amiga.

Jesus of Nazareth is probably one of the most proven historical figures in ancient history.  Was he God?  The son of God?  A prophet?  Did he raise people from the dead?  That is an entire different subject and will most likely end in an opinion.

When Ancient Historical Researchers look to prove or disprove a person in history they look at hundreds if not thousands of documents and records (historical method) from that time period that would substantiate a conclusion one way or the other.

And before I read another sentence involving Bigfoot or the Yeti, they both fail the Historical Method test.

Look, I'm not trying to crucify Darrin (no pun intended) but it does bother me that as a society people post statements like this without thinking it through.  I believe everyone in the world has a right to Freedom of Speech but that comes with a great deal of responsibility.  

If I stated in a post that I believe the Earth is flat, that Julius Caesar is a myth, or that the Sun revolved around the Earth, many here would flame me for being ignorant of the facts.

If we don't hold everyone accountable for their statements then what are we teaching the next generation?

-P

[nicholas]

~Two billion people on this planet believe in the existence of and virgin birth of Jesus son of Mary (Peace be upon them both) and love him as they love their own father, based on nothing more than the word of one man.

Muhammad son of Abdullah (Peace be upon him and his pure progeny).

I am one of them.

The problem you have with Jesus is that there isn't any record of him at the time of his life. All the text referencing him were written at least 70 years after his death at the earliest and by third party account.

Keep in mind that the gospel are ACCORDING to and not WRITTEN by the apostles. Josephus wrote about CHRISTIAN also from third party account. The Romans didn't write anything about Jesus in any of their official correspondence. There is only mention of a christian sect but no mention of Jesus.

Also the Bible was written around 324 by the catholic to push their agenda and impose their flavor of Christianity over the other christian sect mostly the Aryans & the Cathar who didn't recognised the divinity of Jesus.

Jesus of Nazareth looks more like a literary invention to teach morals and religion which can be a good thing if he is used as such. But instead he became a reason to torture and kill millions of people over the years in religious war. A real shame.

[EDanaII]

Gentlemen?

As someone as previously suggested, please move this particular discussion somewhere else. As the person who original broached this topic, I only intended to make a quick point rather than let it fall into debate. If you wanna open a discussion on it, I'll gladly join any and all there to discuss the issues.

Two cents.

[Tension]

What??  Franko has gone???

What a bloody shame.  What made him want to do that?  What a shame.

[Darrin]

Gentlemen?

As someone as previously suggested, please move this particular discussion somewhere else. As the person who original broached this topic, I only intended to make a quick point rather than let it fall into debate. If you wanna open a discussion on it, I'll gladly join any and all there to discuss the issues.

Two cents.

I agree.  This has got far too serious.  Time for us to all reach for our copies of Life of Brian and The Holy Grail and sit down for a few beers.  :-)

[klx300r]

Franko PLEASE we need you to come back to this thread at least just to steer it away from the existence of Christ:lol:

[tone007]

The temptation of Franko is detailed in the Canonical gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke. It is also found in Aramaic Matthew. According to these texts, after being baptized, Franko fasted for forty days and nights in the desert. During this time, the DoomMaster appeared to Franko and tempted him. Franko having refused each temptation, the DoomMaster departed and angels came and brought nourishment to Franko.

In Luke's and Matthew's accounts, the DoomMaster tempts Franko to:

-Make Amigas out of stones to relieve his own boredom
-Free himself from a pinnacle by jumping and relying on OS3.9 to break his fall. The narrative of both Luke and Matthew has the DoomMaster quote Psalm 91:11-12 to show that Jay Miner had promised this assistance, although the DoomMaster implies that the passage may be used to justify presumptuous acts, while the Psalm only promises that Jay Miner will deliver those who trust and abide in Him.
-Worship the DoomMaster in return for all the Amigas in the world. Luke has the DoomMaster explicitly claim this authority had previously been handed to himself, the DoomMaster.

Give him 40 days!

[Tension]

The temptation of Franko is detailed in the Canonical gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke. It is also found in Aramaic Matthew. According to these texts, after being baptized, Franko fasted for forty days and nights in the desert. During this time, the DoomMaster appeared to Franko and tempted him. Franko having refused each temptation, the DoomMaster departed and angels came and brought nourishment to Franko.

In Luke's and Matthew's accounts, the DoomMaster tempts Franko to:

-Make Amigas out of stones to relieve his own boredom
-Free himself from a pinnacle by jumping and relying on OS3.9 to break his fall. The narrative of both Luke and Matthew has the DoomMaster quote Psalm 91:11-12 to show that Jay Miner had promised this assistance, although the DoomMaster implies that the passage may be used to justify presumptuous acts, while the Psalm only promises that Jay Miner will deliver those who trust and abide in Him.
-Worship the DoomMaster in return for all the Amigas in the world. Luke has the DoomMaster explicitly claim this authority had previously been handed to himself, the DoomMaster.

Give him 40 days!

The greatest trick that DoomMaster ever did, was convincing the world he isn't on A.org

[ChaosLord]

When Franko returns from the mountaintop he will be carrying stone tablets etched with the holy commandments.

[klx300r]

When Franko returns from the mountaintop he will be carrying stone tablets etched with the holy commandments.

even better..he'll be bringing us the long awaited king of all modern day miggies.....the prophisized X1000:angel:
and then all those that cherished false gods shall kneel before it :insane:

[Darrin]

The temptation of Franko is detailed in the Canonical gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke. It is also found in Aramaic Matthew. According to these texts, after being baptized, Franko fasted for forty days and nights in the desert.

LOL.

That was a misprint, due to a bad translation by the monks.  It was after a CURRY, Franko FARTED for 40 days and 40 nights so his girlfriend sent him into the SPARE ROOM.

[cv643d]

I consider myself fairly up to date with what is happening on a.org, this Franko dude, anyone can tell what kind of avatar he had and what kind of threads he made so I can find out the genius of him?

[motrucker]

Well I'll damned! I vanish for a few days, and come back to this? You could say my very existence here is due to Franko.
Even here there are very few of us hard core classic Amiga users. We can ill afford to lost one. Specially one so vocal.

[Franko]

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