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Re: Anyone have one of these MCC-216's?
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 20, 2011, 09:43:34 AM »
Someone did some first tests with the new beta Amiga core:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVJoM0CM_N4
 

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Re: Anyone have one of these MCC-216's?
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2011, 07:40:59 PM »
Hi guys,

I am one of the main developper of the MCC.
Currently, I am working on a newer and smaller (less than 2000 LUTs) 68000 core. I have all the instructions implemented, I am at the testing phase.

IMHO, FPGAs are getting faster over the years.
Today, it is possible to design a microcoded 68000 softcore that runs at 150 MHz.
Mine currently runs at 90+ MHz on a slow Cyclone III.
Very soon with the new Cyclone V, any re-implementation of the Amiga will be more powerful than an 040 AGA machine.

I hope to release a new version of the Amiga core soon.

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Re: Anyone have one of these MCC-216's?
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2011, 08:35:13 PM »
I'm going to have the MCC-216 (VGA version) on exhibit for everyone to try out at the Sacramento Amiwest Show, Oct. 22-23.

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Re: Anyone have one of these MCC-216's?
« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2011, 12:01:51 AM »
I hope you lucky west coast people will post lots of you tube videos...
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Re: Anyone have one of these MCC-216's?
« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2011, 12:58:54 PM »
That new core sounds very exciting. Keep us in the loop as to how it is progressing!
 

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Re: Anyone have one of these MCC-216's?
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2011, 11:33:59 PM »
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That new core sounds very exciting. Keep us in the loop as to how it is progressing!


Well, right now I am testing the core against the musashi 68k emulator from mame. So far, I have tested all the flavors of ADD, SUB, shift and rotate plus the MOVE, LEA, JSR, BSR and RTS. On average the 90 MHz core runs like a 30MHz 68000.
The core is designed to be small (currently : 1700 LUTs), so it is heavily microcoded (more than the original 68000).
The microcode is Forth based and quite small (~6KB), to prgram the microcode ROM, I had to create my own microcode assembler with Lex and Yacc.

Later, I will create a more powerful design by having a true 32-bit ALU, a separate effective address ALU and the fetch/decode done in parallel.
If I move to a faster FPGA architecture, I think I can reach 150 MHz.

It is really fun to re-create a 68000 from scratch.

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Re: Anyone have one of these MCC-216's?
« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2011, 04:13:13 AM »
Just checked out a YouTube interview by the developer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK_m2EMaVKY&feature=related

Some interesting info: possible AGA core down the line, multiple cores of different systems in both PAL and NTSC.  Nice interface.  S-Video and VGA connections.  Ability to load 4 floppies in Amiga mode.  Seems to be headquarted in Alabama (says the website), although the developer has a German accent (I think).

Price looks to be lower than the MiniMig or the Chameleon and includes the case.  Competition is great!
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A500 - 170 MB HD, 8 MB RAM, OS 1.3/2.04
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A1200 - 20 GB HD, 64 MB RAM, Blizzard IV
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Re: Anyone have one of these MCC-216's?
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2011, 10:23:54 AM »
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I'm going to have the MCC-216 (VGA version) on exhibit for everyone to try out at the Sacramento Amiwest Show, Oct. 22-23.
They twisted my arm to give a presentation on the MCC-216.  It'll be after 3 on Sunday afternoon... as everybody starts packing up.  :)

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Re: Anyone have one of these MCC-216's?
« Reply #37 on: May 31, 2015, 12:38:17 AM »
At the July 18-19 Commodore Vegas Expo v11 2015, the MCC-216 returns, this time with the latest goodies and cores - Commodore 64, Amiga 500, Apple II, ZX Spectrum, and Atari 800XL.  SCCAN member Matt will be at the show to demonstrate how to install OS 3.1 into the MCC instead of OS 1.3 and how to use his beta installer in order to add cores and games easily into the MCC's directory structure.

If you can't attend CommVEx, Matt has posted his video of installing OS 3.1 into the MCC at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrGrwYfjiq4

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Re: Anyone have one of these MCC-216's?
« Reply #38 on: May 31, 2015, 02:26:17 AM »
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At the July 18-19 Commodore Vegas Expo v11 2015, the MCC-216 returns, this time with the latest goodies and cores - Commodore 64, Amiga 500, Apple II, ZX Spectrum, and Atari 800XL.  SCCAN member Matt will be at the show to demonstrate how to install OS 3.1 into the MCC instead of OS 1.3 and how to use his beta installer in order to add cores and games easily into the MCC's directory structure.

If you can't attend CommVEx, Matt has posted his video of installing OS 3.1 into the MCC at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrGrwYfjiq4

FCUG celebrating 33 years,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm
July 18-19 Commodore Vegas Expo v11 2015 -
http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
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Well, that is encouraging, doesn't look as good as my A2000, but then its not run any of the additional graphic modes I can run.
And the benchmark make my humble 14 MHz '20 look good.

Can anyone explain to me why the stock 68K is targeted when the '020-'030 provides a major jump (at comparable speeds) and the leap to '040-'060 performance can be downright amazing?
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Re: Anyone have one of these MCC-216's?
« Reply #39 on: May 31, 2015, 02:40:51 AM »
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The FPGA is a small one. I found the info on EAB.
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Re: Anyone have one of these MCC-216's?
« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2015, 02:46:45 AM »
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@above
The FPGA is a small one. I found the info on EAB.

Thanks. That makes sense.
Smaller FPGA, lower price, but with limits on what you can jam onto it.
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