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Offline freqmax

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Re: Max hard drive size?
« Reply #59 from previous page: January 06, 2011, 01:14:52 PM »
It was the same thing with both Minimig and ArcadeReplay. It's "impossible" it's fake bla.bla.. instead of doing something oneself. Like looking at the number of transistors needed and available etc..
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Re: Max hard drive size?
« Reply #60 on: January 06, 2011, 02:30:58 PM »
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Hey Franko

Just so you know its rather distasteful to make posts like "money is no object to me" quite distasteful.


While I see that Franko is quite happy with his station, I do not see that he was comparing himself to others in derogatory fashion.  Should someone who has worked in their life to be able to rest easily be ashamed or vilified by others?

It all depends upon what you infer from such a statement.  Money is no object for me either, and I am flat phuqn broke these days with only a little bit every so often to allow myself an indulgence.

Every so often Franko comes off sounding like a prick -- again, the inference being the responsibility of the receiving party -- but taken for what it is, his statement is innocuous.  Some people may have been offended by what he said; some people may have just rolled their eyes; other people, like myself, may have read his post and just continued on.

I think the latter two might maintain a lower stress level.
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Re: Max hard drive size?
« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2011, 02:39:22 PM »
2 Tb ought to be enough for anyone. ;)
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Re: Max hard drive size?
« Reply #62 on: January 06, 2011, 10:24:43 PM »
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2 Tb ought to be enough for anyone. ;)


I would be happy if I can get the 40 or 80 or 160Gb to work fully!!! (and that's the whole point although you can have large drives on Amiga's they are a pain to get functioning fully). Just did a calculation I would need 95GB for all my Amiga stuff but then again I don't have as much as some people. :D
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Re: Max hard drive size?
« Reply #63 on: January 07, 2011, 03:45:41 AM »
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I would be happy if I can get the 40 or 80 or 160Gb to work fully!!!


Same here...
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Re: Max hard drive size?
« Reply #64 on: January 07, 2011, 04:26:11 AM »
What I did with OS 3.9: Installed. Put 9Gig, 18gig and 36 Gig HDs in. Used them, using FFS. No problems. Ever.
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Re: Max hard drive size?
« Reply #65 on: January 07, 2011, 04:31:45 AM »
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What I did with OS 3.9: Installed. Put 9Gig, 18gig and 36 Gig HDs in. Used them, using FFS. No problems. Ever.
Did you manually enter the partition information?
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Re: Max hard drive size?
« Reply #66 on: January 07, 2011, 05:01:17 AM »
Of course, 2 or 3 partitions below 4 GB and 2 bigger past 4GB for data and games.
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Re: Max hard drive size?
« Reply #67 on: January 07, 2011, 07:39:15 AM »
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Can you give me some quick tips on that? I have a 50 gig SCSI drive in my A2000 and a 20 gig IDE drive in my A1200.


In NetBSD is a program called factor which helps, but you can do it manually if you like. Let's take the 50 gig drive as an example. I used to have a ton of Seagate full height 3.5" 50 gig hard drives like the ST150176LC or LW, so your might be similar. This model has 97,693,755 total sectors. Factoring that we get:

97693755: 3 5 6512917

That doesn't break down nicely, so let's round down a bit. Let's try:

97693750: 2 5 5 5 5 5 7 7 11 29

So now we can create some numbers for sectors per track, tracks per cylinder, et cetera. A good general guideline is to have less than 10,000 tracks. I'll just take:

5 * 5 * 11 * 29 = 7975 cylinders

That leaves us with 12250 sectors per cylinder which we can break down as:

5 * 5 * 7 = 175 sectors per track and 2 * 5 * 7 = 70 tracks per cylinder.

In summary:
7975 cylinders
175 sectors per track
70 tracks per cylinder
12250 sectors per cylinder

As long as the total number of sectors doesn't exceed the total size of the drive, you're good to go.
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Re: Max hard drive size?
« Reply #68 on: January 07, 2011, 07:44:53 AM »
what do you guys put on your miggy hard drives to fill up all that space? :)
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Re: Max hard drive size?
« Reply #69 on: January 07, 2011, 07:56:18 AM »
Games from CD take quite a lot of space.
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Re: Max hard drive size?
« Reply #70 on: January 07, 2011, 08:03:49 AM »
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Games from CD take quite a lot of space.


this is true. I guess I didn't figure there were that many.
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Re: Max hard drive size?
« Reply #71 on: January 07, 2011, 09:34:24 AM »
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what do you guys put on your miggy hard drives to fill up all that space? :)

I have literally hundreds of gigabytes of 16 bit AIFF audio files I need to store as well as CD/DVD ISO Image files which need up to 8GB storage space per file not to mention GFX data and around 9000 ADF files... :)

That's the reason I need such big HDs on my Amigas... :)
« Last Edit: January 09, 2011, 08:16:53 AM by Franko »
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Re: Max hard drive size?
« Reply #72 on: January 07, 2011, 09:50:36 AM »
8gig files on an amiga ? Using what file system ?

As for the general theme of the thread though, I must say that Ive never had any major dramas using larger drives. The only exception I guess being the boot partition size being restricted to 4gig, but that's no major hassle for such a small OS. I really dislike having many partitions (I use 6 on a 320 gig drive including the 4 gig OS partition) and it was as easy as pie to set up using os3.9 hdtoolbox. Once the partitions where defined I just installed pfs3 (I dont like sfs for reasons that aren't really important here) and changed and created the pfs partitions. Was as easy as setting up partitions on any other more mainstream OS.

It's pretty easy to fill the space though. Nightlong alone is a few gig of space, Descent:freespace 500+meg, quake 1, quake2, Napalm, Earth2140, lots and lots of whdload installed games, development software, emulator rom images and lots more. Sure, amiga software is typically a lot more basic than software for other systems, but there's so much stuff out there that it's easy enough to use as much storage space as you can throw at it.
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Re: Max hard drive size?
« Reply #73 on: January 07, 2011, 10:08:14 AM »
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8gig files on an amiga ? Using what file system?

SFS using SFS/2 partitions... In theory the programmer claims using SFS/2 partitions you can have a single file as large a your partition is, but the biggest single file size I have used is 8.2GB for dual layer DVD ISO images... :)

I too have never had problem setting up large HDs but from the amount of folk who have PMd me here in the past couple of weeks alone it seems most folk are having trouble setting up a large HD, which I'm currently trying to find an easy way to solve for them... :)
« Last Edit: January 09, 2011, 08:17:47 AM by Franko »
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Re: Max hard drive size?
« Reply #74 on: January 07, 2011, 06:54:42 PM »
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NetBSD is a free Unix operating system from Berkeley (the school). It's based off of 4.4BSD and its lineage goes back to the beginning of Unix in the 1970s:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bsd

I think RadosÅaw just needs some pointers about general setup of the FastATA and about interrupt handling versus polling, et cetera. Please take a look at the link and if you have some ideas, just shoot an email off to port-amiga@netbsd.org.

Thanks!

Sorry... I missed your post due to the slight distraction that was going on here...

I've read the link you posted thanks, but to be honest I know absolutely nothing about unix and only code in 68K and how to write stuff for the Amiga, C64 & Vic20 and how their hardware works... :)

I don't think anything I know about the FastATA driver or hardware would be of any use to someone writing Unix... Sorry... :)
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