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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #2264 from previous page: February 02, 2013, 03:49:54 PM »
oh, perfect! then i will hopefully have the cash!
what is the estimated price?
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #2265 on: February 02, 2013, 04:41:32 PM »
You guys ever thought about joining forces with Loriano and offering a complete system for sale when everything is done?
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #2266 on: February 02, 2013, 07:11:58 PM »
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You guys ever thought about joining forces with Loriano and offering a complete system for sale when everything is done?

I haven't been able to find any prices on this.  From the estimates I have seen online, it's going to be a lot more expensive than a regular MiniMig, right?

The price I saw somewhere was something like 600 Euro, is that correct?  That would work out to over $800 CAD for me.  Yikes!
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #2267 on: February 02, 2013, 07:27:23 PM »
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Yes, it does. There is 128 MB of SDRAM on the daughterboard.

I want one with at least 256 MB
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #2268 on: February 02, 2013, 07:34:49 PM »
Where can one buy a complete system built around an FPGA Replay board now?

I want something to be a plug-n-play system, since I'm not a coder or computer engineer. Thanks.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #2269 on: February 02, 2013, 08:01:40 PM »
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I want one with at least 256 MB


I want one with 2GB.  But we only get what they give us. :)
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #2270 on: February 02, 2013, 08:21:46 PM »
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I want one with at least 256 MB

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I think we can use the 64MB~  on the base board as well as the 128MB on the expansion, giving us a total of 192MB~.

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Where can one buy a complete system built around an FPGA Replay board now? Thanks.

Just a few pages back

http://faranheit.dyndns.org:8080/FPGA%20Arcade/FPGA%20Arcade%20Boards%20and%20Accessories%20Prices%20List.pdf
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #2271 on: February 02, 2013, 08:47:17 PM »
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but the daughterboard comes with local memory, doesnt it?

Yes. But any 680x0 implementation stuck on the non-daughterboard FPGA have to fight the chipset for memory access.
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #2272 on: February 02, 2013, 09:03:40 PM »
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Yes. But any 680x0 implementation stuck on the non-daughterboard FPGA have to fight the chipset for memory access.

where is such an implementation in first place? what are you complaining about?
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #2273 on: February 02, 2013, 09:05:50 PM »
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I want one with at least 256 MB


this is no ppc, you know.. ive run owb on my a4k and didnt run out of 128mb fastmem, though ive run out of 4meg vmem on cv64 multiple times as it looks like. fpgaarcade solves this as it seems.
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #2274 on: February 02, 2013, 09:32:51 PM »
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I haven't been able to find any prices on this.  From the estimates I have seen online, it's going to be a lot more expensive than a regular MiniMig, right?

The price I saw somewhere was something like 600 Euro, is that correct?  That would work out to over $800 CAD for me.  Yikes!


The aim is just to recover the costs. The base board without svhs/composite target is 199Euro + VAT. I need to do the maths of the final production cost and tax / exchange rates, but it's looking promising. As volume increases the price will come down a little.

The daughterboard (sans processor) is going to be cheaper, but I don't have production pricing yet as the spec is still slightly up in the air.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #2275 on: February 03, 2013, 01:34:44 AM »
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where is such an implementation in first place? what are you complaining about?

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I am not complaining, I am wishing. Any type of Amiga without >1 memory bus behaves just like the original A1000 in that the cpu has to wait for the custom chips.
I wish to see a daughtercard like the 060 one, but with an FPGA instead.
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #2276 on: February 03, 2013, 02:00:22 AM »
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I am not complaining, I am wishing. Any type of Amiga without >1 memory bus behaves just like the original A1000 in that the cpu has to wait for the custom chips.
I wish to see a daughtercard like the 060 one, but with an FPGA instead.

Maybe the the existing daughtercard will work with the Motorola 68060 FPGA replacement module from this thread :)

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=63800

I think it will void your warrantee :)

I will be happy with an 060 which is a fine CPU even at 50mhz in my 1200.

I am unclear at this point if I should be obtaining my own 68060 CPU if I intend of getting the FPGA Replay board and daughter-board.

thanks
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #2277 on: February 03, 2013, 03:03:59 AM »
Okay, I've just recently dropped into this thread and done some searching on the internet to see if I could get some FPGA Replay newbie questions answered, but didn't find much about this RTG 060 thing.  I couldn't find a FAQ, for instance, that dealt with what we are discussing here.

So what exactly are we talking about in this thread here?  Some sort of hardware attachment that goes onto the FPGA arcade replay to enable it to be an AGA 060 RTG Amiga?

Please bear with me, as I'm just trying to get the basic info sorted out from a 150 page thread.

I hear all this talk about a "daughterboard" but I don't know what that is in this context. I thought the FPGA was already a device that could be reprogrammed to be any sort of early computer, using different "cores"?  Right?  Why, then would it need a daughterboard?

Without this daughterboard, the FPGA Arcade can already turn itself into an ECS A500 with the regular MiniMig core. Right?

Now, someone is writing a new AGA core that will also allow RTG. Right?

But...to enable it to have a super 68060, you need to purchase some sort of daughter card?  Am I in the ballpark?

Does the daughter card need a real 68060 chip?  Does it come with one?  Do you need to purchase the 68060 separately?  I thought these were hard to find and expensive nowadays?  Can it do the 060 in FPGA?

I'm not really clear on why the FPGA Arcade, which already seems very capable, would need any attachment hardware to make it become an AGA Amiga.

Sorry for all the basic questions.  If someone could just send me in the direction of a FAQ that would be helpful.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #2278 on: February 03, 2013, 03:55:18 AM »
@ Ral-Clan:

You're getting a little confused with all of the different postings.

The FPGA Arcade works as an AGA Amiga by itself and will have RTG, 64MB RAM, SD card slot (for HDF and ADF files).  The CPU however will be a softcore 68020 running at whatever speed they can squeeze out of it.  It will also be able to boot different cores to turn it into other computers/arcade games.

The daughterboard is for those people who want to "smell the rubber".  It will add an additional 128MB RAM, Ethernet, USB, Micro SD card slot (which will act as another hard drive without using a HDF file) and add a socket where you can use a real 68060 processor (plus some other stuff).

So, think of the bare board as an A1200 on steroids with a faster CPU, extra RAM, scan doubler, RTG and a hard drive.  Then think of the daughter board as a kick-ass trapdoor expansion.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #2279 on: February 03, 2013, 05:02:00 AM »
Ah, thanks Darrin, that clears things up nicely.

I'd be interested in seeing the speed difference between the bare FPGA and one with the daughter board...i.e. AIBB.

Just where are people expected to get the 68060 chips for the daughter board, nowadays?
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