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Offline Everblue

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1184 on: December 10, 2011, 01:44:55 PM »
I havent got any email yet... I have enquired in the past about the Arcade FPGA with Mike but not sure if I am not on the preorder list or not...
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1185 on: December 11, 2011, 09:50:56 AM »
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I havent got any email yet... I have enquired in the past about the Arcade FPGA with Mike but not sure if I am not on the preorder list or not...


Had mine a month or more ago.. pretty sure if you havent then you are not on the list for this 40 odd batch but on next list...  Having said that I've had nothing since and was hoping for an Xmas Amiga :(
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1186 on: December 11, 2011, 10:00:41 AM »
That's ok, hopefully the 2nd batch will be cheaper ;)
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1187 on: December 12, 2011, 10:13:31 PM »
will this board ever be forsale to the masses seems to be taking ages ,it would have been better if people kept it in the background like natami thingy ,then we wouldnt have to pull our hair out waiting , or is this board just for the elite as usual???????
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1188 on: December 12, 2011, 10:35:55 PM »
Good things come to those who wait ;)
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1189 on: December 12, 2011, 11:50:45 PM »
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will this board ever be forsale to the masses seems to be taking ages ,it would have been better if people kept it in the background like natami thingy ,then we wouldnt have to pull our hair out waiting , or is this board just for the elite as usual???????

I don't know what the "Elite" are that you are writing about, and I strongly disagree with your assessment that MikeJ should have kept quiet about this project until it was ready for sale.  Mike has provided good information and listened to many users who have provided feedback and suggestions for this project.  It is refreshing to see a project manager who has been as open and responsive to his prospective buyers as MikeJ has been, and I can only wish that more of the Amiga project members were as open and responsive as Mike has been.  Many other people here agree with this, as has been discussed previously in this and other threads.

You should be able to buy one of these soon.  Mike has been ironing out the last few remaining bugs and you must realize that this is a one man project, except for the other guys that have been working on improvements to the 68k core, which is only one part of this total package.  I think that Yacube might be helping with work on the expansion daughter board, but ultimately it is Mike that is getting everything manufactured and assembled.  These things take time and I am sure he has a full time job and some kind of family life too, so be patient and make sure you are on the list of people that want to buy one of these.  Then sit back and relax and wait for your turn to arrive.

It is a great project and has tons of expansion and future enhancements that could be available in the future.  I think MikeJ is a very talented guy to rival even Jens Schoenfeld of Individual Computers and that is high praise indeed.

So, don't get so impatient that you piss off the person you are trying to get new hardware from.  I am sure he is working as fast as he can on this project.
How are you helping the Amiga community? :)
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1190 on: December 13, 2011, 12:11:44 AM »
I agree with @amigadave.
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1191 on: December 13, 2011, 12:22:46 AM »
I would like to echo AmigaDave's comments and say that I think, actually, it is quite incredible what MikeJ has been able to achieve so far.  For one person to personally design, and then build, refine, source a supplier for components,  arrange a business deal to get it produced in quantity, arrange funding to pay for it all, and then get a production run of 50 units produced, and then  personally thoroughly test each one, and then ship them all out himself without any support from any other person...is quite incredible!! Especially if, as I believe, MikeJ is holding down a full time job at the same time.

I realise it is very frustrating that we can't all have our new wonder-Amigas right now, and the frustration you're expressing it probably made worse by all the false promises of the past by other vendors - promised machines which never materialised - but this isn't MikeJ's fault.  He's in many ways done a lot more than any single person alone would ordinarily be able to achieve.  I for one am very impressed by his work so far!

I am sure he would like to order hundreds of these boards and ship them all out, but I suspect he probably wants to see how gets on with 50 for now.  There's only so much a single person can handle at a time.  It's a lot of work, and I'm sure what he doesn't want to do is to end up ordering 1,000 of these boards, and then find he can't test so many units all by himself, and has tp ship them out as-is, and find that many have faults which cost a lot to fix (for example.) Or to find he can't sell all of them and would make a massive loss on this project.

The responsible thing to do, in my opinion, is exactly what he has done.  That is: to produce a limited run of boards to begin with, so that he can then personally test them all, and start sending them out to customers, and then see how the units perform 'in the wild', and see what the reaction is like from his customers.  IF it all goes well, and there are no problems, and all the units perform as expected.. and there's still a lot of demand for the Replay.. and he's confident enough to place a much larger order, and be able to trust and rely upon the workmanship of the factory producing them without personally testing hundreds of units, then he'll be able to ship out more... THEN he can place that much larger order, and everyone can get the Replay they desire.

I think we need to ask ourselves, could we do what MikeJ has done? Do we have the skills to develop a board like this? Would we have the patience to work at it for so long? Would we be prepared to travel abroad and sign business deals, personally test 50 units, etc? We should't expect from others what we couldn't imagine doing ourselves.  MikeJ's done a lot more than most of us could ever do, and he's created an amazing little board with so much potential.  Let's cut him a little slack, give him a chance.  Let's not expect perfection or demand the impossible.  He's doing the best he can, and he's done a remarkable job so far at that IMO :)
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1192 on: December 13, 2011, 08:21:49 AM »
I have to agree with the posters above me (both in the thread and in knowledge ;)

Let MikeJ and the other "hardcore" people try this out, find obscure bugs and so on, and let the rest of us wait a bit longer before we get our hands on these boards.

Ofcourse, I'd like a board right now, now, before xmas, I'll pay a mountain of money for it .. But I'd also like something that I don't have to deliver bugreports every day for, and something that actually runs the software / games I want :)

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that we'll get another board, and that I actually get to order one.

To all of the developers and bugtesters: thankyou for your dedication and hard work.
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1193 on: December 13, 2011, 09:03:52 AM »
I am sure that after the initial 50 boards, another bigger production wil be made and we can buy from Amigakit etc. Hopefully these will come in a nice small case and a backplate ;)
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1194 on: December 13, 2011, 09:11:44 AM »
Quote from: minimiger;671215
will this board ever be forsale to the masses seems to be taking ages ,it would have been better if people kept it in the background like natami thingy ,then we wouldnt have to pull our hair out waiting , or is this board just for the elite as usual???????

Don't worry, we get the very same kind of impatient outbursts over at the Natami forums too.

These things don't just materialise out of thin air, you know :lol:
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1195 on: December 13, 2011, 09:17:01 AM »
Surely given that we're Amiga fans, we know how to wait? Mike has obviously been slaving away on this - it's a labour of love.

I'm guessing like a lot of other folks here, I emailed Mike a while ago and am content (though of course keen too!) to wait for the boards to be ready for the masses. Let's do Mike the courtesy of waiting as long as it takes. :)
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1196 on: December 13, 2011, 09:18:40 AM »
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will this board ever be forsale to the masses seems to be taking ages ,it would have been better if people kept it in the background like natami thingy ,then we wouldnt have to pull our hair out waiting , or is this board just for the elite as usual???????


First of all, fair comment. It is taking a long time.
Thanks for all the other posters offering support.

20 boards have shipped now. I have about 30 more on my desk, each need some hand assembly, testing, sometimes repair and programming. It takes time. I had all the components here in Europe, but the assembler let me down so I had to ship 10Kg back to China to get everything built. All the connectors were too heavy, so I need to hand build.

I met with the China company last week and we are going to do another bigger run shortly. They will fully build the boards this time.

Unlike NatAmi, this project is fully open. There are other developers with the code, and working on other cores. As soon as I have a stable release of the new core, it will be released, including full source. Then, things will speed up.

Best,
Mike
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1197 on: December 13, 2011, 09:23:51 AM »
Oh, the backplates have been manufactured and are on the way to me now.
They do not include the holes for the 68060 daughter board, we will make another one then - or you can punch your own holes....
/MikeJ
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1198 on: December 13, 2011, 09:27:09 AM »
MikeJ you had better hurry up and ship as many as you can otherwise you may get caught with the looming European financial crisis   :eek:

HURRY UP MIKE HURRY UP!
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1199 from previous page: December 13, 2011, 09:44:49 AM »
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Oh, the backplates have been manufactured and are on the way to me now.
They do not include the holes for the 68060 daughter board, we will make another one then - or you can punch your own holes....
/MikeJ


MikeJ am I on your list for the first batch? Thanks in advance :)