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Offline mikej

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #164 on: March 10, 2011, 10:27:30 AM »
Amigadave,

Thinking about it I did mail a few people about licenses but didn't get a response. I need to follow up.

The big thing now is the complete re-write of the codebase. Jakub is doing great with the new additions, but I am restructuring and cleaning up all the older code.

There is a risk of the code being re-used, but that's what you get with open source code....

I fully expect to increase the performance of the internal CPU as well.
/Mike
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #165 on: March 10, 2011, 10:46:27 AM »
Amiga Inc. don't own the rights anymore do they? I thought everything was deemed to be the property of Hyperion following the court case?

With the Kickstart ROM replacement work being done there may be no need for a license soon.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #166 on: March 10, 2011, 12:14:35 PM »
Exactly sell it with free open source Boot-ROM and OS. And get rid of the whole issue. Doesn't seem reasonable to be responsible for user actions.

(any link where to download this AROS m68k ROM?)
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #167 on: March 10, 2011, 01:21:25 PM »
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Exactly sell it with free open source Boot-ROM and OS. And get rid of the whole issue. Doesn't seem reasonable to be responsible for user actions.

(any link where to download this AROS m68k ROM?)


aros.org has a download link for nightlies, or you can get the latest WinUAE beta's - WinUAE now comes with a "built in" AROS ROM.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #168 on: March 10, 2011, 01:50:57 PM »
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Amiga Inc. don't own the rights anymore do they? I thought everything was deemed to be the property of Hyperion following the court case?

With the Kickstart ROM replacement work being done there may be no need for a license soon.


OS4 is the only thing Hyperion owns.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #169 on: March 10, 2011, 07:07:26 PM »
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Amiga Inc. don't own the rights anymore do they? I thought everything was deemed to be the property of Hyperion following the court case?


I think Cloanto is the place to be. The AresOne is sold with a Amiga Forever OEM version for the kickstart ROMs in the UAE emulation under AROS.

greets,
Staf.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #170 on: March 10, 2011, 07:14:53 PM »
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OS4 is the only thing Hyperion owns.
Pretty sure that's not true.

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in 30 September 2009, Hyperion was granted an exclusive, perpetual, worldwide right to AmigaOS 3.1
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #171 on: March 10, 2011, 10:47:09 PM »
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in 30 September 2009, Hyperion was granted an exclusive, perpetual, worldwide right to AmigaOS 3.1


I hope McEwen suck on that really hard *grin*
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #172 on: March 10, 2011, 11:37:35 PM »
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I think Cloanto is the place to be. The AresOne is sold with a Amiga Forever OEM version for the kickstart ROMs in the UAE emulation under AROS.

greets,
Staf.

Selling the FPGA Replay Board with an OEM copy of AmigaForever would probably be the simplest solution, until the Kickstart replacement is completed.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #173 on: March 10, 2011, 11:40:15 PM »
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Selling the FPGA Replay Board with an OEM copy of AmigaForever would probably be the simplest solution, until the Kickstart replacement is completed.


I don't think Cloanto has rights to do that.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #174 on: March 10, 2011, 11:50:01 PM »
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And the one you designed is how fast again?  :)

Why do people have to be so negative about positive things...

It's not Natami.  It is as fast as it was designed to be...

I'm happy with that..

desiv


you think this comparison looks bad for the fpga arcade (especially the softcore is still wip) and i was going to bash it? i quoted a 060/100 (there is only one such yet to my knowledge) and a regular 060/50, which is the fastest official reference amiga hardware there is. which means the softcore could have yet a realistic chance to catch up with 060 given some improvements. which in turn may support the theory that natami core could in fact be even faster. good things are going on. why do you people always try to assume an intended insult is beyond me.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #175 on: March 10, 2011, 11:52:37 PM »
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Pretty sure that's not true.


Prety sure it is.

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30 September 2009, Hyperion was granted an exclusive, perpetual, worldwide right to AmigaOS 3.1 in order to use, develop, modify, commercialize, distribute and market AmigaOS 4.x and subsequent versions of AmigaOS (including AmigaOS 5).


Means they have a license to use AmigaOS 3.1 for development and marketing of AmigaOS 4 and above.

Doesn't mean they own it, it actually means they don't own it, but they have the right to use it.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #176 on: March 11, 2011, 12:01:33 AM »
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Amigadave,

I fully expect to increase the performance of the internal CPU as well.
/Mike

thats what i expect as well. thanks.
aros 68k is progressing well so i think soon there is an kickstart replacement for everyday use. even if 100% compatibility is a tough goal.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #177 on: March 11, 2011, 12:16:05 AM »
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why do you people always try to assume an intended insult is beyond me.

That's a mistake on my end then.  I'm guessing it's just a language barrier issue..

It certainly sounded like (and still does when I re-read it, but maybe that's just me) a negative comment about the speed.

Since that wasn't intended, mea maxima culpa...  :)

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #178 on: March 11, 2011, 12:37:00 AM »
i think the speed comparison is unpartial. depends what you read into it yourself, i think. tobiflex is also still working on his core, even if he admitted not to be so much motivated at times. bitfield instructions are being implemented.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #179 from previous page: March 11, 2011, 10:26:08 AM »
Does the hardware provide direct access to the digital audio within the audio logic?
Real Amigas have integrated DACs, so there's no way to get digital audio output, but it should be possible to bypass the DACs in FPGA implementations of the platform.

Having digital audio to go along with the digital video signal would be really nice.
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