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AmigaOS 2.x consensus
« on: December 28, 2010, 11:51:00 PM »
Wondering who all here uses 2.x in their machines. Kickstart and Workbench that is. Can you use Workbench, etc. with Kickstart 3.1 well enough? Any glaring issues or incompatibilities doing so?

Reason I ask is because I am thinking about turning my A2000 (which currently has KS and WB 3.1 on it) into a 2.1 machine. I've got the full original disk set, begging to be used and I believe I have a 2.04 ROM somewhere too. And before some asks WTF? I'm only thinking about doing this because:

a) I'm thinking I want to play around with 2.1, since I never really spent much time with it ever.

b) the A2000 sits there, idle. Since I have a 1000 that's happy with 1.3 and a 3000 with 3.1 on it, thought it might be nice to have a different OS on that system for shits and giggles.

...what do you think? Waste of time and effort? Or go for it? Might be neat showing the evolution of AmigaOS's across various machines...
 

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AmigaOS 2.x consensus
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2010, 11:54:16 PM »
I always figured 1.3 for compatibility with games, 3.1 for modern stuff.  2.x just doesn't really fit anywhere for me.
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Re: AmigaOS 2.x consensus
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2010, 01:06:01 AM »
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I always figured 1.3 for compatibility with games, 3.1 for modern stuff.  2.x just doesn't really fit anywhere for me.
Yeah, that's how I've always looked at it. You know... here I am looking at the binder for 2.1 and its 5 disks. There's an extra slot, blank of course. Could have been the Kickstart disk for A1000 owners dammit! How tough would it have been to include dialogue explaining you needed more RAM, instead of ditching us all together  :mad:  

C= could have certainly embedded a little ditty that created and then set aside WOM-like memory for the extra 256KB of 2.x Kickstart. The_rat_bastards!  :lol:
 

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Re: AmigaOS 2.x consensus
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2010, 01:19:02 AM »
I'll echo the sentiment above. 1.3 for games, 3.1 otherwise. Im not sure there's really anything gained from 2.x though I could miss something
 

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Re: AmigaOS 2.x consensus
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2010, 01:42:53 AM »
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I'll echo the sentiment above. 1.3 for games, 3.1 otherwise. Im not sure there's really anything gained from 2.x though I could miss something

Of course you missed something. It's the grey theme! :)

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Re: AmigaOS 2.x consensus
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2010, 01:46:20 AM »
Hard to argue a case for 2.x... I have a couple of A600s which have it, but I never ever use them.

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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2010, 02:42:24 AM »
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Of course you missed something. It's the grey theme! :)

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3.1 has the grey theme too!

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Re: AmigaOS 2.x consensus
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2010, 02:53:51 AM »
AmigaOS 2.x is what you use until you can put a 3.1 ROM in your Amiga. The only reason for using it is if you don't have 3.0 or 3.1. I don't see any advantage to it at all since 3.x is just as fast and efficient but much improved and updated.

I think any OCS/ECS Amiga is more useful having a Kickstart ROM switcher and both 1.3 and 3.1. 2.x is kind of useless.
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Re: AmigaOS 2.x consensus
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2010, 03:06:13 AM »
I used 2.x more than anything else back in the day. But I was primarily running production type stuff like graphics, music, toaster with some games. 1.3 was just too rough to stare at all day and I never recall compatibility issues with games. But then maybe I just didn't play enough different ones to run in to problems. I still have a 2000 and 3000 running 2.x while I have another 2000 and 4000 running 3.x

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Re: AmigaOS 2.x consensus
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2010, 03:25:48 AM »
I find 3.1 just as compatible as 2.x or even better. I also skip 2.x and in fact have my 2000 with a rom stitcher 1.3 and 3.1. Don't miss 2.x at all
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Re: AmigaOS 2.x consensus
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2010, 03:50:13 AM »
I have found that the PPS 040 board for the Amiga 2000 works great with Kickstart 2.04 and Workbench 2.1.  I can not get this board to work properly with Amiga OS 3.x.  Most likely there are other Amiga hardware that acts the same way, works great on Amiga OS 2.x but not 3.x.
 

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Re: AmigaOS 2.x consensus
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2010, 03:58:45 AM »
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I have found that the PPS 040 board for the Amiga 2000 works great with Kickstart 2.04 and Workbench 2.1.  I can not get this board to work properly with Amiga OS 3.x.  Most likely there are other Amiga hardware that acts the same way, works great on Amiga OS 2.x but not 3.x.


Hmm... even with updated Libs? Specifically, the 68040.library.
 

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Re: AmigaOS 2.x consensus
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2010, 10:21:18 AM »
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I have found that the PPS 040 board for the Amiga 2000 works great with Kickstart 2.04 and Workbench 2.1.  I can not get this board to work properly with Amiga OS 3.x.  Most likely there are other Amiga hardware that acts the same way, works great on Amiga OS 2.x but not 3.x.

Might be an old version of the board or something, I had a PPS040 that worked fine with 3.1 and didn't require anything special.
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Re: AmigaOS 2.x consensus
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2010, 10:51:44 AM »
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Could have been the Kickstart disk for A1000 owners dammit! How tough would it have been to include dialogue explaining you needed more RAM, instead of ditching us all together :mad:
 
C= could have certainly embedded a little ditty that created and then set aside WOM-like memory for the extra 256KB of 2.x Kickstart. The_rat_bastards! :lol:

It's cheaper to replace the WOM daughter board with a ROM adapter.
 

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Re: AmigaOS 2.x consensus
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2010, 12:29:05 PM »
Don`t bother, unless you have an unexpanded A500+/A600.
That`s the only way to see the advantages over 1.x and the problems while trying to install/run 3.x apps...

P.S. You may play with it under UAE (safer, less headache!)
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