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Offline Xanxi

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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2010, 09:54:38 AM »
AGA is very fine to me.
Fast Workbench in 256 colors with the good patches, good JPEG pictures rendering in HAM6 with Visage, perfect VGA rendering in shapeshifter emulation with MUVED external driver.
All that from a 1993 chipset!
ECS is useless slow crap compared to AGA.
Would be cool though to have more than 2MB of chip RAM.
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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2010, 10:06:39 AM »
Quote from: Xanxi;601838
AGA is very fine to me.
Fast Workbench in 256 colors with the good patches, good JPEG pictures rendering in HAM6 with Visage, perfect VGA rendering in shapeshifter emulation with MUVED external driver.
All that from a 1993 chipset!
ECS is useless slow crap compared to AGA.
Would be cool though to have more than 2MB of chip RAM.


Agreed 100%... :)

FBlit kinda gives you back your chip mem, but It would be great to have more than 2MB of real chip RAM... :)
 

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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2010, 10:18:40 AM »
After using OCS/ECS for 5 years AGA was a definitive improvement - especially when used besides RTG on the same monitor.
 

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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2010, 10:38:26 AM »
Aga ftw!
Wanna try a wonderfull strategy game with lots of handdrawn anims,
Magic Spells and Monsters, Incredible playability and lastability,
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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2010, 10:47:39 AM »
Sold my A500+ to help fund the purchase of an A1200.
I was well impressed with the improvement that came from the change in graphics chipset.
 

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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2010, 11:10:14 AM »
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Agreed 100%... :)

FBlit kinda gives you back your chip mem, but It would be great to have more than 2MB of real chip RAM... :)


I use FBlit, but I am not sure if I use it the right way, I am not sure I get as much chip mem back as possible.
When do you run FBlit?
 

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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2010, 11:17:35 AM »
I run Fblit very early on in the Startup-Sequence and it and the other patches I use leave me roughly 1,891,712 bytes free of chip mem when run on a 128 colour WB screen... :)

You can save a lot more if you reduce the number of colours on your WorkBench screen... :)
 

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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2010, 11:19:07 AM »
hmm, well I do use 256 colors, maybe I should reduce the number of colors anyway.. :)
 

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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2010, 11:25:41 AM »
@ yssing

Here's an example of my main miggies Startup-Sequence, placing the patches in the right order and running them at the right time makes a difference as to how well they work... :)


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; $VER: Startup-Sequence_060+Blizkick 1.0 (31.08.06)
; Startup-Sequence for hard drive systems

C:+C/VInfo         ;My Virus Checker Prog
C:+C/SetPattern         ;Select Backdrop Picture (F1-F10)
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Remove OS 4.0 Partitions
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
C:Assign <>NIL: OS0: Dismount
C:Assign <>NIL: OS1: Dismount
C:Assign <>NIL: OS2: Dismount
C:Assign <>NIL: OS3: Dismount
C:Assign <>NIL: OS4: Dismount
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; Create Vital OS Dirs
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C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys
C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ

Resident >NIL: C:Assign PURE
Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Create Nessesary Assigns
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Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV

Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T
Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards

Assign >NIL: REXX: S:
Assign >NIL: PRINTERS: DEVS:Printers
Assign >NIL: KEYMAPS: DEVS:Keymaps
Assign >NIL: LOCALE: SYS:Locale
Assign >NIL: LIBS: SYS:Classes ADD
Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER
Assign >NIL: Prefs: SYS:Prefs

Assign >NIL: C: SYS:C/+C ADD
Assign >NIL: Devs: SYS:Devs/+Devs ADD
Assign >NIL: L: SYS:L/+L ADD
Assign >NIL: Libs: SYS:Libs/+Libs ADD
Assign >NIL: Prefs: SYS:Prefs/+Prefs ADD

Path >NIL: RAM: C: SYS:Utilities SYS:Rexxc SYS:System S: SYS:Prefs SYS:WBStartup SYS:Tools SYS:Tools/Commodities add

Path >NIL: C:+C Devs:+Devs L:+L Libs:+Libs Prefs:+Prefs SYS:System/+System SYS:Tools/+Tools SYS:Utilities/+Utilities add
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
; StartUp Any System Patches
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C:SetPatch <>NIL: SKIPROMUPDATES QUIET ;Standard Amiga Patch
C:+C/PatchControl.V2.3 ;PatchControl (Controls Any Added Patches)
C:+C/CMQ060_Move16
C:+C/BlazeWCP           ;Patches Certain Blitter Routine
C:+C/FBlit           ;FastBlit Patch (Speeds Up Blitter Routines)
C:+C/FText           ;Patch For Faster Text Output
C:+C/MCP           ;MCP (Multiple Patches)
RUN <>NIL: C:+C/TitleShadow     ;Patch (Creates Window Title Shadows)
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
; BLIZZARD 060/PPC RemMap Rom Stuff
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
S:Bliz.PPC           ;BlizKick Remap ROM 060/PPC
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Fast ATA3 Stuff
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
FailAt 10

C:+C/CheckLMB           ;Check For Left Mouse Button

IF WARN               ;If Pressed - Run ATA3 Prefs
  SYS:Prefs/+Prefs/ATA3.prefs
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C:ATA3.driver NOPART QUIET   ;Start ATA3 Driver
C:Stack 8192
C:ATA3SetSplit           ;Make Primary Slave NOSPLIT
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; Protect From Writing To These Partitions
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C:Lock <>NIL: Workbench: ON
C:Lock <>NIL: Store: ON
;C:Lock <>NIL: DH2: ON
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Usual Startup Stuff
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
C:Version >NIL:
C:AddBuffers >NIL: DF0: 15
FailAt 21

BindDrivers
C:Mount >NIL: DEVS:DOSDrivers/~(#?.info)

IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors
  IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
    DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
  EndIF

  C:List >NIL: DEVS:Monitors/~(#?.info|VGAOnly) TO T:M LFORMAT &quot;DEVS:Monitors/%s&quot;
  Execute T:M
  C:Delete >NIL: T:M
EndIF

SetEnv Language &quot;english&quot;
SetEnv Workbench $Workbench
SetEnv Kickstart $Kickstart
UnSet Workbench
UnSet Kickstart

C:AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET
C:ConClip

C:+C/FPprefs            ;FullPalette (Sets Up & Locks WB Colours)

IF EXISTS S:User-Startup
    Execute S:User-Startup
EndIF

C:IPrefs

Run >NIL: C:+C/Birdie ? <ENV:Birdie.Prefs ;Birdie (Window Borders Patch)

Resident Execute REMOVE
Resident Assign REMOVE

C:LoadWB -DEBUG

Avail <>NIL: FLUSH

EndCLI >NIL:

LAB END
Echo &quot;You Wanted to Stop Here&quot;
 

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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2010, 12:07:43 PM »
:) thank you. I think I got some of my chipmem back.. :)
 

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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2010, 12:09:37 PM »
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hmm, well I do use 256 colors, maybe I should reduce the number of colors anyway.. :)


IMO anything more than 16 colors on Workbench in AGA is wasteful: wasteful in chip ram and cpu speed.  I used the MagicWB 8 color palette and found it a nice compromise between speed and appearance. In  fact I personally think the "Amiga look and feel" is best exemplified by MagicWB, Magic menu, and MUI in a 4:3 screen mode.  

Actually, I'm a little over eye candy on the gui, now just run the stock 4 color workbench: after all the gui is just a means to communicate with the computer.  Most people still read the icon label text, and don't rely on the icon pictogram to determine what the icon represents, with the icon just representing the "clickable" region.  In that case, pretty icons are pointless and possibly distracting.
 

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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2010, 12:12:38 PM »
I like AGA, it's faster, more colourful and even more important: there are dozens of demos and intros for it :-)
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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2010, 12:15:44 PM »
You know something I don't like all that eye candy either and now for the life of me I can't think why I run Workbench in 128 colours !!!

There is a reason but I just can't remember right now... this is my typical everyday Workbench... :)

« Last Edit: December 26, 2010, 01:10:57 PM by Franko »
 

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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2010, 12:20:43 PM »
@Franko

I like the Amiga and C64 icons, where did you get them from?
 

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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2010, 12:22:24 PM »
I done them myself in DPaint... :)
 

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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« Reply #29 from previous page: December 26, 2010, 12:23:07 PM »
As I always used this as my backdrop no need to use many colours: