@Belial6
The issue is pretty irrelevant at this point. George is banned.
Which is why the pitchfork and torch waving is so bad.
For God's sake, I'm old enough to take care of myself, and I have enough firepower within easy reach to take care of pretty much any nutbag who bangs on my door in the middle of the night. This is Alabama after all.
As you should.
What I don't forgive, or forget, is someone who knowingly abuses a community that I had a large part of, to the extent of ripping off my friends. Yes. Personal friends. People I physically know, as in "stayed in my spare bedroom while looking for a job locally" friends. That's not heresay, or conjecture. That's fact.
That is a good reason for you to really dislike the guy.
You say we're being kinda rough on ol' George. There are times when I might agree with you that it goes too far. That being said, when "Doommaster" put on the proverbial clown suit and painted a proverbial target on his forehead, he's pretty much made the joke out of himself over the years.
Youtube videos with him wistfully pining "Only Amiga" badly off-key have only served to reinforced his reputation as "someone we don't want around".
I know nothing about the clown suit, but certainly singing badly just isn't that bad of an offense. Sticking to complaints about ripping off users makes a better argument.
My advice to you here sir, and I'm being honest, is to re-read this thread with an objective mind. Realize that it's not just me, or the admins, or the new owners, or Bill P that dislike the guy. It's everyone pretty much universally.
And that is where it goes overboard. If you and the admins and the new owners, and everyone who has had actual contact with the guy dislike him, that is one thing. It is a clear sign that things have turned into a mob witchhunt when it becomes universal, including people that don't even know the guy.
As such, there's got to be something to that (we cannot all be wrong).
Yes, you can. That is kind of why mobs are bad.
If you insist on continuing to play the role of his knight in shining armor here trying to defend and save him, I'm afraid you might be disappointed, as you're going to find it difficult to find any friends on this site, let alone "convert" anyone to thinking George is a good guy.
I think if you read my posts, you will not find any place where I even imply that the he is a good guy. Not even once. I have even specifically pointed out previously that I don't know the guy, and believe those that had bad experiences with him. That is why I said he is our version of Godwins Law. Saying that taking things too far and encouraging a big round of mob hate is a bad thing, gets turning into accusations of being a sypathizer. It isn't about trying to "defend and save" doomy. It is about trying to defend Amiga.org. If you haven't noticed the hate sessions start spilling over to others.
Just look at some of the comments about CUSA. As far as I know, they haven't taken a dime from anyone. His worst offense seems to be using a decade old graphic without permission. The scale of attacks against them are simply unwarranted. So, who is next on that list?
It's sometimes difficult to maintain order without being called "censor" or "nazi" or even "anti-Christ" (I always LOVED that one). What I learned over the years of running Amiga.org is fairly simple. Even wonderful, saintly people who inhabit online forums tend to adopt a "group-think" or better stated, a "mob". mentality.
Take the recent cries to forgive Doomy for example. One guy brings up a valid point about us going to the other extreme (we do tend to slam on doomy at the slightest mention of his name) and we all jump on board to decry the poster for it.
And that is basically my point. Although, you will not find anywhere that I have even suggested he be forgiven. Just that any hint of his name gets out of control, and it has started moving to the point that his name seems to start getting brought up just so that a hate session can start.
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Just a thought, and I wish you a Merry Christmas.
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And happy Festivus.
