Threat against Amiga sites?

[Belial6]

I get that he very well likely did many of the things that are claimed of him.  The problem is that while it is said he went so far as to threaten you Wayne, I also see in this very thread a physical threat against him.  As I understand it, he was banned because the kind of nutbaggary that would make physical threats are not the kind you want here.  I would agree with that, but the rules against threats seems to only apply to those that the mob has decided they don't like.

There are definitely nutcases on this board.  Heck, one might argue that hanging out on this board pretty much defines you as a nutcase, but the viciousness on this board gets REALLY bad, and a blind eye is turned when for some people, while the TOS bets broken out for others.

The comments made against "Mr. Campbell" go far beyond warning against doing business with the guy.  They are incessant, and personal attacks.  They set the bar pretty low for what is considered acceptable behavior, and they are frequently exactly what some of the claims against him are.

I realize that many of use were in high school when we were first introduced to the Amiga, but we are not any more.  We should act like grown ups.  OK, maybe not grown ups.  But we should at least be civil.

[the_leander]

I get that he very well likely did many of the things that are claimed of him.  The problem is that while it is said he went so far as to threaten you Wayne, I also see in this very thread a physical threat against him.  As I understand it, he was banned because the kind of nutbaggary that would make physical threats are not the kind you want here.  I would agree with that, but the rules against threats seems to only apply to those that the mob has decided they don't like.

There are definitely nutcases on this board.  Heck, one might argue that hanging out on this board pretty much defines you as a nutcase, but the viciousness on this board gets REALLY bad, and a blind eye is turned when for some people, while the TOS bets broken out for others.

The comments made against "Mr. Campbell" go far beyond warning against doing business with the guy.  They are incessant, and personal attacks.  They set the bar pretty low for what is considered acceptable behavior, and they are frequently exactly what some of the claims against him are.

I realize that many of use were in high school when we were first introduced to the Amiga, but we are not any more.  We should act like grown ups.  OK, maybe not grown ups.  But we should at least be civil.

Way to wilfully ignore context, common sense and just carry on tone trolling.

Bravo.

[Franko]

@ Belial6

Where is this physical threat in this thread you speak of, I've been looking and can't find it

To me personally I find this thread quite amusing and don't honestly think anyone is going to hunt down HC and duff him up, as far as I can tell it's just all a bit of  fun.

In this so called civilised world there are far more hideous things happening right now as we speak that you should be getting worked up about rather than taking too seriously what is nothing more than a bit of banter...

[the_leander]

To me personally I find this thread quite amusing and don't honestly think anyone is going to hunt down HC and duff him up, as far as I can tell it's just all a bit of  fun.

It is, Belia is deliberately ignoring context to prove himself right. He won't let it drop until Darrin gets permanently banned for making a jokey comment. You watch, any time there's a heavy discussion and the TOS gets talked about, he'll bring this up again.

In this so called civilised world there are far more hideous things happening right now as we speak that you should be getting worked up about rather than taking too seriously what is nothing more than a bit of banter...

Peace is just a camera shot around the corner from war.

[Belial6]

Ahh... So saying quite being a hypocrite and bagging on some guy that isn't even (at least openly) on this board, including threats, is trolling?  I get the context.  The context is that many people on this board think the guy is a crook, and an ass.   The guy is gone from Amiga.org.  If he isn't really gone, he is at least in hiding.  You already won.  The pitchfork and torch waving that is still going on isn't "context".  It is seeing a guy that you have already beat down, and then going out of your way to just keep kicking him.

The context I see is a group of bullies who have found a target that they can use to rationalize their petty asshole behavior because after all "he ripped off users".

[the_leander]

Ahh... So saying quite being a hypocrite

Still ignoring context I see. And an adhom into the bargain, awesome!

The context I see is a group of bullies who have found a target that they can use to rationalize their petty asshole behavior because after all "he ripped off users".

Uhuh. If it's so bad, leave.

[Belial6]

@ Belial6

Where is this physical threat in this thread you speak of, I've been looking and can't find it

To me personally I find this thread quite amusing and don't honestly think anyone is going to hunt down HC and duff him up, as far as I can tell it's just all a bit of  fun.

In this so called civilised world there are far more hideous things happening right now as we speak that you should be getting worked up about rather than taking too seriously what is nothing more than a bit of banter...

The threat was in 8th entry in this thread.  It was made by Darrin.

A bit of fun is you threatening me with fuzzy tickle sticks.  OK, a bit of fun is using the tickles sticks, but that is another story.  I am here.  You are poking fun at me, to me.  Bagging on a guy that has been banned from the site is not poking a bit of fun.  Again, a simple warning that he has ripped some people off from this site is one thing, but that is not what is happening here.  When you actually think badly of someone, saying bad things about them is entirely different than saying bad things about your pal that you think is a great guy.  One is a bit of fun, the other is an attack.

[Franko]

Ahh... So saying quite being a hypocrite and bagging on some guy that isn't even (at least openly) on this board, including threats, is trolling?  I get the context.  The context is that many people on this board think the guy is a crook, and an ass.   The guy is gone from Amiga.org.  If he isn't really gone, he is at least in hiding.  You already won.  The pitchfork and torch waving that is still going on isn't "context".  It is seeing a guy that you have already beat down, and then going out of your way to just keep kicking him.

The context I see is a group of bullies who have found a target that they can use to rationalize their petty asshole behavior because after all "he ripped off users".

Look ah'm too ruddy tired for this, so I'll deal with you tomorrow or later on if thats ok (lost all track of time right now) noo ah'm gwan tae ma bed so take a couple of chill pills and relax, it's no good fur ye ye ken...

Oh eye Night, Night everybods...

[Belial6]

It is, Belia is deliberately ignoring context to prove himself right. He won't let it drop until Darrin gets permanently banned for making a jokey comment. You watch, any time there's a heavy discussion and the TOS gets talked about, he'll bring this up again.



Peace is just a camera shot around the corner from war.

I am not suggesting that Darrin get banned.  I am suggeting that if moderation is going to be done, the endless bitch sessions filled with derogatory comments about a guy that was banned YEARS ago, is a good place to start, rather than the administrators joining in.

And why wouldn't I point to this thread when the TOS gets talked about?  The TOS don't come up very often, as banning and moderation is pretty lenient on the site, but when moderation has come up, it has always been for things far less than what has happened in this thread.

Ask yourself, are there half as many posts talking about Cammie's gaming contest as there are posts bagging on Doomy?  Which of the two is being productive to the site?  Which of the two is actually still a member?

If Doomy is such a threat to the community that he needs this much coverage, then just have a sticky at the top of every forum, warning not to do business with him and move on.

[Retro_71]

OK another time i didn't want to join in but i will... who in their right mind would take what Darrin said about tickle sticks seriously?? are you 5 years old and don't know what humour is?
Honestly if you think of that as a threat i would hate to see what you would do if someone said Boo to you late at night.
But since i think you and selles are both doomy i guess you have to troll for something to keep you alive.. (ahhh i have hit the nail on the head.. doomy needs trolling NOT food to keep him alive.....)

[the_leander]

Ask yourself, are there half as many posts talking about Cammie's gaming contest as there are posts bagging on Doomy?

And you're helping this how?

  Which of the two is being productive to the site?  Which of the two is actually still a member?

According to Transition, both are.

If Doomy is such a threat to the community that he needs this much coverage, then just have a sticky at the top of every forum, warning not to do business with him and move on.

Or, we could just continue to have fun whilst ignoring your really quite groundless complaints.

[J-Golden]

I think what we are dealing with is not so much as a demented person as we think but more of a narcissistic person.  A, "Brat Child" if I may.

It is a fact that Doomy has gone through great lengths to say, "Hey!  look at me!  See what I’m doing?"  And we do, we look; we comment; we give the bugger the recognition he wants.

So the problem is that Doomy has it stuck in his head that ANY notoriety is GOOD notoriety.  This is why he has such a problem.  That is why WE have such a problem.

How do we snuff this circle of "Doom"?  Donno.  But I think we need to stick to our guns and not lets others rile us up.  We have proof and we are friends here.  Both back each other up.

So, Belial, why don't you bring up a topic that is important to you and find out how dynamic and helpful we at A.org really are.

I dare ya.

[SysAdmin]

Doomy is our Lindsay Lohan?

[Belial6]

OK another time i didn't want to join in but i will... who in their right mind would take what Darrin said about tickle sticks seriously?? are you 5 years old and don't know what humour is?
Honestly if you think of that as a threat i would hate to see what you would do if someone said Boo to you late at night.
But since i think you and selles are both doomy i guess you have to troll for something to keep you alive.. (ahhh i have hit the nail on the head.. doomy needs trolling NOT food to keep him alive.....)

Really?  Is that where it goes?  It strikes me that Doomy is Amiga.orgs very own Godwin.  Instead of brining up Hitler and calling anyone that disagrees with you a Nazi, you call them Doomy.  The site administrator can see my IP address.  He can see that I log in from Northern California 100% of the time.

You should also read better.  Darrin said to post Doomy's address, and that one of us must live withing "arms reach" of him.  That is a threat.

It was Franko that made the comment about tickle sticks, and I explicitly said that it was NOT a real threat.  Why?  Because he made it TO ME.  He wasn't involved in some hate session that I could not defend myself in.

But seeing the join date of 2007, I feel it safe to assume that you, like me, have never actually had an interaction with Doomy.  Yet you still see him lurking in the shadows.  You decide, "I don't like what he is saying.  He must be Doomy."

@Transition

Only if you think Lindsey Lohan is sneaking into your parties in disguise...

[whabang]

This thread delivers!

[Karlos]

Maybe he already has, and that's why his post count is so high.


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Scurrilous! My post count is entirely genuine. Would be about 11K higher if it weren't for the bloody mpacuk forum