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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2010, 02:05:36 AM »
Quote from: Cammy;599085
Either the community just doesn't care anymore, or a lot of people don't like me personally. I don't think this is somewhere I fit in anymore, if I ever did. I'm not ready for the old folks home yet.


Or maybe there's another option: not enough time to spare among a busy life? :) Although I'm not exactly sure how the "not like you option" fits in there. Are you sure you're not taking this all a little too seriously? Just puttin' that out for thought.

Just wanted to interject. Time for this old fart to nod off again... Now, get off my lawn!
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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2010, 02:10:11 AM »
Quote from: Cammy;599048
I've been losing interest in Amiga.org for months. Too many topics that either don't seem to be about Amigas at all, or threads with silly polls seem to get way more attention and replies than any constructive Amiga threads. The reason myself and a lot of other people I talk to in private don't want to post here is because it just seems pointless when our hard work or enthusiasm for new development is met with negativity and ignorance.

I think your brother's friends are right about this forum.


Agree, too many "social life" here and absence for amiga stuffs ant too many ipad-iphone topics.
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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #46 on: December 16, 2010, 02:22:39 AM »
End of the day it doesnt really matter. Amiga, in all forms is a relic. One with some great ideas behind it that are suitable for the modern world still, but a relic nonetheless (heck, even beta lost the "war"). If a person worries about what others think then theyre going to be constantly disappointed. On paper the feature set of all "amigas" make it appear humble at best, but only people who know the system understand that its not a machine you can always compare on paper to others .

If you enjoy an amiga system then simply enjoy it. Outside approval/non-mockery may never happen, but if that's important to a person then they've chosen the wrong hobby. Chasing approval and/or trying to justify using the system(s) in the modern world has so far played a big part in why the outside world tend to look at us as though we're retarded.

Just enjoy it for yourself. Nothing else should matter, and if you happen to find some others who share your interest along the way, then that's just a bonus.

All that said however, if you want someone to understand, get them to use an amiga exclusively for a few weeks to a point that they know the system ok. It's the only way people will truly get it. Sure, it may not cope with industry standards so well sometimes (not the same as being incapable of comparable results), but there absolutely are certain charms and ideas worth preserving.

In some ways the Amiga being so far ahead of the curve ball 20-25 years ago is responsible. We had a machine doing similar things to what's done today and when mainstream consumers see/hear the idea of people using such an old machine it probably would seem strange, after all, "it's only in recent times computers have been so 'friendly'". (to people on the outside)

So, my final summary is, "I enjoy the system, what's it to you?".  :)
« Last Edit: December 16, 2010, 02:40:22 AM by fishy_fiz »
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #47 on: December 16, 2010, 02:41:34 AM »
Quote from: Cammy;599085
Take Quick Videos for example, for the first time in forever we finally have a new video editing program for Amiga systems with a nice, easy to use GUI, and yet the thread gets a single reply and is never seen again.



Was that posted in the Amiga Desktop Audio/Video forum?  I didn't see it there.
 

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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #48 on: December 16, 2010, 03:21:27 AM »
amiga.org has helped me out tremendously with my 500 & 1200 over the years.  Any and every problem I have faced has been solved with the help of many friendly & helpful amigans worldwide..SO the community was & still is very alive IMHO.

of course, as many people have already mentioned, the problem is the trolling threads lately appear to get more attention than the real AMIGA issues that people really care about..
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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #49 on: December 16, 2010, 04:16:48 AM »
Quote from: Cammy;599085
Take Quick Videos for example, for the first time in forever we finally have a new video editing program for Amiga systems with a nice, easy to use GUI, and yet the thread gets a single reply and is never seen again.


I'm sure many looked and lurked, but fewer these days want to participate in yet another thread that potentially turns into a "this camp bashing that camp" event as so many do. Remember the small rucus of the AROS getting movable screens?

BTW, you'll find Quick Videoa under the AROS section...
http://amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55693

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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #50 on: December 16, 2010, 04:58:16 AM »
Quote from: Cammy;599085
Either the community just doesn't care anymore, or a lot of people don't like me personally.
You're right Cammy, we don't like you. We LOVE you  :)  

Even though I haven't contributed one iota to game programming lately (I'm usually good for beta testing and can offer lots of good game play concepts and mechanics ideas), I for one appreciate your energy and enthusiasm for our beloved platform. Your dedication and straightforward no-nonsense approach to computing and these forums in general, are truly unique. Please don't think anyone here doesn't like you. That's not the case at all. Some of us are just too busy doing other things (life often gets in the way as a mortgage paying, tax paying, auto paying, etc. adult) to pay attention to the things that really matter, subconsciously or not, to us sometimes  :)
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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2010, 05:39:11 AM »
Quote from: Franko;599061
@ Save2600
I know you yanks don't have much in the way of a sense of humor but is U.K. humor really so bad that you'd rather condemn yourself to Amibay... ;)

As I spend a fair amount of my time at Amibay as well, I can tell you that you will never find a more wretched hive of.....  ... of...
English humor fans!!!!

LOTS of it over there...  You'd think a lot of them live there or something!!  :-)

And, while I am from the U.S., I have to admit the more the better...

Just finished up watching a few seasons of "The IT Crowd!"  OMG!!!
That is hysterical!!!!!!  :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

As for the Amiga community, it feels just like is used to back in the day.
Except instead of ST bashing, there is "not-my-flavor-of-Amiga" bashing...

I've never been a fan of any of that (not that I haven't unintentionally fed some trolls from time to time..  It's so darn easy to get pulled in..)...

I even remember the Amiga memory protection "discussions" on FIDONET (yes, I am that old) between Matt Dillon and  er.. um.. the people who disagreed with Matt..  ;-)  I sided with Matt; not because I knew, but because I bought and used DICE....  But, those discussions got pretty bad, and that was way back in the late 80's...  
Of course, it never seemed as bad back then.  Reading the arguments, yet listening to Tears for Fears...  80's..  

:-)

Personally, I don't mind the arguments.  But the condescension gets to me...

However, considering the season, I'll just have a glass of egg-nog & some cookies, play some Christmas Lemmings, and relax...

Happy Holidays



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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2010, 06:39:12 AM »
Never understood why people have a problem with "off topic" threads and chit chat, thought we were all here because we share a common interest? Who cares what we talk about. Remember, if you don't like what you see, don't read it. Simple :)
 

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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2010, 07:20:24 AM »
the smaller a niche, the more fiercely the divisions
 

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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #54 on: December 16, 2010, 07:29:50 AM »
Quote from: Cammy;599048
I've been losing interest in Amiga.org for months. Too many topics that either don't seem to be about Amigas at all, or threads with silly polls seem to get way more attention and replies than any constructive Amiga threads. The reason myself and a lot of other people I talk to in private don't want to post here is because it just seems pointless when our hard work or enthusiasm for new development is met with negativity and ignorance.

I think your brother's friends are right about this forum.

I must be losing interest in this site too, because I completely missed this thread and also missed the other thread about the new Video editing software for the Amiga.  I'll have to go find that one and see what it is about.

There was a time when I doubt I missed any threads on this site, because I would visit here so many times a day, it was very unlikely that any thread could slip off the main page before I would see and read it.  I read every thread and almost every post made on this site for many years, but not any more.

I have to agree with Cammy that the content here does not seem to be what it used to be and the negativity has increased to a point that it has me looking elsewhere to get Amiga information and help.  The one thing I always thought Amiga.org had over other sites was the help provided here.

I am not saying that I am leaving here, it has been my Amiga home for many years.  But it does not measure up to what it used to be.  It may just be a sign of the times, or the changing of all internet sites that I am noticing, who knows?
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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #55 on: December 16, 2010, 07:32:17 AM »
for what its worth, I still find this site great for classic amiga questions and hardware. I just don't dive into the "next gen" discussions much anymore.
 

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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #56 on: December 16, 2010, 10:12:09 AM »
A good way of knowing what die hard mac and pc fans think of us Amiga users is in the comment section of my YouTube videos I have up of I'm a PC, I'm a Mac and I'm Amiga Advert spoofs, some like it, some really hate it. Here is a perfect example of one debate I had.


- drbilly100  get overit amiga is dead, 20,000 fanbase worldwide if that its a dead format, no software no new hardware. Keep living your pipe dream .face the facts mac and pc are here and amiga died a long long time ago

-my reply = Just show you how much you know. New hardware is on the way, Beta boards are starting to ship, AmigaOS4.1 is getting more updates, Open Office and Firefox are being ported, various other games and software title haven been ported or being worked on, we may be a small community but where a very active one. So the amiga is not dead, Get over it!

- drbilly100 yeah yeah heard it all before in the last 17 years vapourware mate lol the company that are making the X1000 are a tiny british company and if u haven't noticed there is a double dip recssion soon to come in the uk right now they will go bust by next year guarantee. Amiga died in 1993/94 when commodore went brankrupt..its never coming back deal with it ..you have to grow up sometime you cant be a teenager forever.25,000 users is pretty laughable lol

-my reply =Why are so many people hostile to Amiga fans its just a hobby, I dont go around train spotter or other users groups saying it sad give it up, move on etc, this is my hobby, this is the machine I like to use and see be kept update even if it never makes a come back i dont care, these vids I just did for a bit of fun, the reason I still use an Amiga is because I still have fun on it, so tell why its such a problem that me and a few other people still have fun on an old computer.

There are tons more just like this inside the comment section about us Amiga users being mad, we need to grow up etc, I've just learned not to listen any more, I think anyone who tell you to give up your dream, hobby or love must be just jealous that you found something you enjoy and they haven't.

the vids

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQKT8QCzyMU
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PVUB4eElTo
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPqllS6ng2g
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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #57 on: December 16, 2010, 10:31:34 AM »
Drbilly100 was very knowledgable for a random person... Sounds like someone who was burned by the Amiga wars of 2003...

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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #58 on: December 16, 2010, 10:39:18 AM »
yup, a real mac or pc user doesnt even have a clue what an amiga is, or has an attachment to the system he/she is using, doesnt really care or get pissed by your vids. people like drbilly are ex-amigans who got burned in the past ...
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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #59 from previous page: December 16, 2010, 10:50:28 AM »
Quote from: Franko;598993
Now I enjoy a good debate/argument but my brother just emailed me to tell me that he and a number of his friends (their all PC users by the way) have been looking in on this site lately and they are all of the opinion now that our so called Amiga community is nothing more than a bunch of "sad retards who seem hell bent on destroying themselves from within"... :(

Don't know about you but I think they may have a point... or do they just not understand the Amiga Community as it is today... :)

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