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Re: CommodoreUSA site updated
« Reply #179 from previous page: December 15, 2010, 04:40:07 PM »
Damn you guys are tenacious!

I can't believe you're all still tossing this one about!

Hey, someone has had the balls to reunite the Commodore and Amiga trademarks and is trying to resurrect a long dead business entity.

If the endeavor doesn't meet all the requirements that you hold dear in some fantasy of what such a project should look like - so be it.

Its Altman's project, and he's going to do things his way.
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Re: CommodoreUSA site updated
« Reply #180 on: December 15, 2010, 04:47:21 PM »
I believe my primary "dream" for a PC is being able to actually buy the damn things
 

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Re: CommodoreUSA site updated
« Reply #181 on: December 15, 2010, 04:55:13 PM »
Quote from: Iggy;598933
Damn you guys are tenacious!

I can't believe you're all still tossing this one about!

Hey, someone has had the balls to reunite the Commodore and Amiga trademarks and is trying to resurrect a long dead business entity.

If the endeavor doesn't meet all the requirements that you hold dear in some fantasy of what such a project should look like - so be it.

Its Altman's project, and he's going to do things his way.


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Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA

Just wondering if you'll stick by your post made on 2nd of September 2010, as you seem to be changing you tune just a wee bit in support of CUSA... :)

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I'll give him till Christmas, and maybe even a little longer, but if he can't produce what he's announced then he's dishonest. Until then, he's just doing what plenty of other small computer resellers do.
 

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Re: CommodoreUSA site updated
« Reply #182 on: December 15, 2010, 04:58:20 PM »
The Altman way :
 
1) Find a bunch of all in one keyboard computers and start a brilliant plan to slap a commodore sticker on them and charge 40% more than the actual supplier.
 
2) Steal apple's website text for describing computer models instead of writing your own descriptions for your computers. Cut the mac names out and paste your fake commodore names in.
 
3) Announce 9 computers as new models, only release one, a cybernet zpc with a commodore sticker slapped on it, that only one guy bought, then hire that one verifiable customer to become your new chief technical officer.
 
4) Steal artwork from amiga scene artists, aminet, or anywhere else you want to.
 
5) Take alot of rendered images from the internet and call them your "new computer design" without actual designing anything yourself.
 
6) Take pictures of cases off the internet and announce more more designs.
 
7) Threaten writers of osnews.com with lawsuits (in writing!) for pointing out the truth about your sham company.
 
8) Lie about a 30 million dollar national television advertising campaign.
 
 
I'm sure there's more but I'm tired of being the guy pointing all this stuff out. I have no axe to grind here, but the truth is the truth. I said it before, this is not opinion, this is all verifiable facts. Any company who has done all this stuff, they are not worthy of any trust at all. Their ethics were in the toilet the moment they at first
launched their first website with the about our products page stolen from apple.com
 
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Re: CommodoreUSA site updated
« Reply #183 on: December 15, 2010, 05:31:03 PM »
Franko,
I was skeptical about Barry's ability to get this done for the 2010 holiday season (and told him so when I talked to him).
That was the main reason I included the qualifier "maybe even a little longer" in that statement.
And yes, if he doesn't produce something soon, I'm going to have to join the naysayers.

But I can't see the rationale in making these announcements, creating this website, and paying for prototype C64 cases without the intent to generate a return on his investment.

Essentially, what I'm saying is that it would defy good common sense or sane business principles.
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Re: CommodoreUSA site updated
« Reply #184 on: December 15, 2010, 05:38:11 PM »
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But I can't see the rationale in making these announcements, creating this website, and paying for prototype C64 cases without the intent to generate a return on his investment.

Essentially, what I'm saying is that it would defy good common sense or sane business principles.


I agree with that wholeheartedly, I do reckon he'll produce something but it's not the kind of stuff I'm keen on buying, The Natami looks better for my needs and the X1000 I've given up hope on... :)
 

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Re: CommodoreUSA site updated
« Reply #185 on: December 15, 2010, 05:48:24 PM »
How about a nice AmigaOne?  I haven't turned mine on in months.
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Re: CommodoreUSA site updated
« Reply #186 on: December 15, 2010, 05:57:24 PM »
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Umm...I think the idea of it looking exactly like a C64 was the whole point.
The problem with using an original C64 case (beyond mangling an original) would be the keyboard.  You would have to buy a Keyrah adaptor....but I think that what CommodoreUSA has done with the very retro looking PC keyboard is a nice touch.



If you read the website you will see these are preliminary prototypes done on a resin printer.

I'm not trying to defend CommodoreUSA but I do think the case (assuming the final will be of the correct colour and be more precisely made) is a retro-product done right.  I will remain suspicious of them until I see them actually on the market though...


The gaps an non-lined up edges are in reference to TheDaddy's cases not CUSA's.
 

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Re: CommodoreUSA site updated
« Reply #187 on: December 15, 2010, 05:58:02 PM »
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How about a nice AmigaOne?  I haven't turned mine on in months.


It will probably need the battery replacing then :lol:

When I resurrected mine, it flat out refused to start. Tried a different CR2032 in there and it sprang to life immediately. The A1 came in for a lot of criticism, some of it valid, some of it hyped up far beyond the real scale of the problem. However, if there's one piece of criticism that I can confirm without shadow of a doubt, it's that they suck said batteries flat like no other system.
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Re: CommodoreUSA site updated
« Reply #188 on: December 15, 2010, 06:03:12 PM »
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How about a nice AmigaOne?  I haven't turned mine on in months.


What happened to the other project you were needing motivation to do recently ???

Is that out the window again... :)
 

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Re: CommodoreUSA site updated
« Reply #189 on: December 15, 2010, 06:13:28 PM »
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I agree with that wholeheartedly, I do reckon he'll produce something but it's not the kind of stuff I'm keen on buying, The Natami looks better for my needs and the X1000 I've given up hope on... :)

I'd have to agree with you that the Natami is more likely to appeal to legacy system user's than anything CUSA will produce.
I don't think CUSA's primary market is hard core Amiga users

Casual users and nostalgia motivated buyesr who want another OS are more likely to buy.

This doesn't invalidate the project, it just isn't going to appeal to die hard Amiga fans.
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Re: CommodoreUSA site updated
« Reply #190 on: December 15, 2010, 06:16:37 PM »
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Damn you guys are tenacious!

I can't believe you're all still tossing this one about!

Hey, someone has had the balls to reunite the Commodore and Amiga trademarks and is trying to resurrect a long dead business entity.

If the endeavor doesn't meet all the requirements that you hold dear in some fantasy of what such a project should look like - so be it.

Its Altman's project, and he's going to do things his way.


Right here in this thread we have some people complaining that the C64 case is bad because it looks just like the original, and others who are complaining that the Amiga cases don't look exactly like the original.  They look like new takes on the old cases.
 

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Re: CommodoreUSA site updated
« Reply #191 on: December 15, 2010, 06:22:12 PM »
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What happened to the other project you were needing motivation to do recently ???

Is that out the window again... :)


It is, I've given up on the 1200T and will most likely sell off the good parts.
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Re: CommodoreUSA site updated
« Reply #192 on: December 15, 2010, 06:24:07 PM »
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Right here in this thread we have some people complaining that the C64 case is bad because it looks just like the original, and others who are complaining that the Amiga cases don't look exactly like the original.  They look like new takes on the old cases.

Yes, I'd agree with that. Frankly, I like the way they look and they do remind me of original Amiga cases. If I was going to fault anything, it would be the lack of a tower option.
I haven't used conventional desktop cases for anything other than multimedia systems in years.
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Re: CommodoreUSA site updated
« Reply #193 on: December 15, 2010, 06:29:25 PM »
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But I can't see the rationale in making these announcements, creating this website, and paying for prototype C64 cases without the intent to generate a return on his investment.

Essentially, what I'm saying is that it would defy good common sense or sane business principles.


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Re: CommodoreUSA site updated
« Reply #194 on: December 15, 2010, 06:30:01 PM »
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The gaps an non-lined up edges are in reference to TheDaddy's cases not CUSA's.


Again, there aren't any...stop freaking trying to throw dirt on my work.