Wanted: A4000 CPU cards, Daughterboard, etc

[ChrisUnionNJ]

I've tries to resist putting my 2 cents in here...But you have got to be kidding me, now i know why i did not bother to finish jumping thru hoops to sell my stuff on amibay. It would be a cold day in hell when someone will tell me what i can and can't buy/sell something for. Its free trade out there people(or have the UK ppl that run amibay been under the british govt. thumb too long?). If i buy something ANYWHERE and i'm told i can't sell it where and when i want,for what price i want,after buying it with my hard earned money,i would have to tell those people to go get bent(hmm,i think i am...). Who the hell are you guys the free commerce police?
I agree profiteering is a bad thing at times(re:the clown on ebay hoarding chinon drives and posting them for crazy prices),but magnetic had good reasons for selling his stuff when he did,and its no ones business BUT his.Its no ones business where he sold it.telling him he has to keep it for so long and or only sell it on amibay is total bullshit. If he made a few dollars great,if not ,sorry, i've been on both sides of the coin.Amiga hardware prices go up and down all the time.The market and supply and demand determines what something is worth. It may of started with good intentions,but from what i can tell its a ridiculous over moderated pain in the butt way to do much of anything.

I think selling stuff on Comp.sys.amiga.marketplace was way better than amibay,i bought and sold much stuff there over 20 years and have probabaly dealt with many amigans here over the years without an ounce of big brother style moderation. it was a pretty friendly way to do trade. Most have gotten away from it in recent years,i still check it now and again.You could protect yourself reasonably well by sitting back and watching who bought and sold if you were new and get a idea who was legit.paypal makes most transactions pretty safe these days.

Mike

So it's ok to agree to the rules and then do what you what that makes no sense just don't use amibay if you disagree it's that simple..

Chris  :roflmao:

[Xanxi]

Calm down people.
Remember that, except North Korea and Cuba, everyone is now living under free liberalism or full capitalism.
The world is made of profiteering and unless a big global revolution puts an end to it, it will do forever.
Although i think it is very uncool to make profit on old amiga hardware, i just don't want to rule the market according to some political system that does not exist anywhere in the world.
Why not raise some taxes on amiga sales from this point of view?

One more point to underligne: Amibay prices are not often cheap, and i still can find a better bargain on ebay.

[Marcb]

Guys, since the op has found what he wanted...

I think this thread  'E's passed on! This thread is no more!
It has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff!
Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't kept 'im open 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-THREAD!!

[tone007]

Although i think it is very uncool to make profit on old amiga hardware

I don't think there's anything wrong with having a hobby that can pay for (or at least subsidize) itself.

One more point to underligne: Amibay prices are not often cheap, and i still can find a better bargain on ebay.

Definitely.

Guys, since the op has found what he wanted...

I didn't see where magnetic got the CPU card he needed!

[Marcb]

I didn't see where magnetic got the CPU card he needed!

Stickler for details aren't you?

[AndyLandy]

Commandment 11: THOU MUST NOT PROFIT FROM AMIGA SALES

Actually, that's the First Commandment of Amibay.

The prime directive is that it exists for people to actually enjoy the hobby and trade items for sensible prices. People can ask for LOLprices, but their items will never sell. Yes, sometimes eBay will swing you a better price, and so be it, most Amibayers still check eBay for the odd bargain.

For all those bashing the capitalism drum in this thread. Yes, you are correct, you are quite welcome to buy and sell stuff at whatever prices you choose, there's no laws against it, free markets and all that. That's what eBay is for, and many of the trading areas on Amiga forums. It's not what Amibay is for. If you don't like it, you don't have to join, nobody's forcing you. But slagging the place off because you disagree with our motives is not cool.

[mechy]

So its fair to buy something very cheap in Amibay and then sell it elsewhere without giving the people who gave you the good deal a chance to have a go at it? If that's big brother then call me little brother..... and i did say it was common courtesy to give something back to people who gave it to you in the first place.

What i'm saying is it doesn't matter where he buys it or for what cost because he has spent his money on it and now owns it,and can do what he/she wants.No matter where/when he sells it,he IS giving someone the chance to buy it.
Amibay is just trying price regulate a free market which obviously doesn't work. I've seen ridiculous prices there as well as ebay.
Give back to the people who gave to me? when i buy something i was not GIVEN anything,i was sold something. i now own that something,and i now can do what i want with it.

mike

[mechy]

So it's ok to agree to the rules and then do what you what that makes no sense just don't use amibay if you disagree it's that simple..

Chris  :roflmao:

Well,i personally didnt agree to anyones rules which is why i don' sell or buy there..and i think its silly to have to remember the price you bought something at,be it one month,year or 5 years,whatever,just to avoid stepping on toes or offending the rules.Attempted price regulation at its best. Like a antique vase,amiga stuff changes price as it becomes more scarce and older.Do you think the owner of this antique would put up with you telling him he has to sell it for what he paid and at the same auction house he bought it? I like and use my amiga hardware,and it too is an investment for me.

The only person i see that is affecting prices the right way is jen's by selling new accelerators.

[Xanxi]

This discussion about rules is becoming interesting, even if it sounds not.

A lawyer would tell you that in a modern country, the Law comes from:
1/ the constitution of this country
2/ treaties made with other countries (aka European Union), which must be compatible with the constitution above
3/ the internal laws of the country
4/ the administratives rules in the country
5/ the custom
6/ the jurisprudence coming from particuliar cases that have been judged.

and of course, every point must obey the previous point in that order.

So, where would a forum rule take place in this scheme? In a 7th point, that would have to conform to all previous rules.
You understand then that a forum rule should only be some general recommandations about politness, norm of writing on the forum, subject of the forum, and not a valour system that could prevent any one to sell/trade anything just as he want. Free capitalism is a law in western countries as long as it is not forbidden gears.

In conclusion, a public forum can not be under a super rule and the "if you don't like the rule, do not suscribe" is irrelevant.

[tone007]

In conclusion, a public forum can not be under a super rule and the "if you don't like the rule, do not suscribe" is irrelevant.

Amibay is more like a private club.

[countzero]

amibay is not a free market then, nor are our beloved amigas just 'merchandise'. if you're looking for stuff to make profit, than dont come there as simple as that. yes, they are doing some sort of price regulation, which I have no problem with. your parallels with communist markets is just utter non sense as we are not talking about distribution of wealth here. it is just a fair system where people can buy and sell stuff without thinking about how much they're losing/gaining profit. as a side note, I find the american notion of trying to associate everything that doesnt suit them with communism/socialism very funny. makes you wonder when you guys start getting this commie bogeyman treatment ...

[CSixx]

Although I've always priced my transactions fairly, I'd never let anyone tell me where and for how much I can sell something I own.

I'd bet the "spirit" of the rule at amibay was to prevent someone from constantly buying up items to resell, and NOT to punish the average user that happens to sell a single item on ebay after a change of heart.

Ebay is easier and only slightly more expensive.

[Xanxi]

amibay is not a free market then, nor are our beloved amigas just 'merchandise'. if you're looking for stuff to make profit, than dont come there as simple as that. yes, they are doing some sort of price regulation, which I have no problem with. your parallels with communist markets is just utter non sense as we are not talking about distribution of wealth here. it is just a fair system where people can buy and sell stuff without thinking about how much they're losing/gaining profit. as a side note, I find the american notion of trying to associate everything that doesnt suit them with communism/socialism very funny. makes you wonder when you guys start getting this commie bogeyman treatment ...

I'm no american, coze. Although France is not as powerful as in the napoleonic time it's still an independant country you know.
And i don't speak of communism either, communism simply does not exist anymore.

[Xanxi]

Amibay is more like a private club.

Yeah, amibay can be a private club.

In that case, it should be clearly stated, people admited after trial or sponsorship, and anyone not complying with the rule could be kick out anytime. Amibay could have its own moral rule ("sell back to the community", "take a wife only in the community", etc), as long as it is not illegal.

The problem is you find most of the guys of amibay in ebay too (with another nickname). How strange!!

Not too much criticism: i like amibay and i am ok with most of the ethic of amibay (i won't sell back with profiteering for instance as it is not my point with the amiga) but i don't like hypocrisy.

[Buzzfuzz]

The problem is you find most of the guys of amibay in ebay too (with another nickname). How strange!!

No, except for Evilbay, on EAB, Amiga.org, Amibay, my username is the same
 
@ Magnetic
Amiga Digital, who I know, is selling an A2630 with 4MB on Amibay: http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?t=11596
If that is something in your price range, 100 euro, then I'll pm him and see if he can contact you.

[tone007]

Amiga Digital, who I know, is selling an A2630 with 4MB on Amibay: http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?t=11596

That'll be awesome in his A4000!