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Offline Franko

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Re: What is the future of Amiga?
« Reply #89 from previous page: November 29, 2010, 06:27:59 PM »
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Re: What is the future of Amiga?
« Reply #90 on: November 29, 2010, 06:44:30 PM »
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As a big brand consumer item Amiga is dead. The people who remember the brand are now not of the age that buy computers regularly enough to warrant a revitalisation of the brand name. Not even Commodore (arguably a more widely known brand name) had any success revitalising their brand.
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While I'll agree it may be irrelevant today, I wouldn't say Amiga users are old/past it.  At lot of us (particularly in europe) got them as kids.  I'm 29 and buy new machines every 18 months-2 years.  I got an A600 for xmas when I was 11, my younger brother is 23 and he remembers the Amiga very well, we still play Lemmings, Hired Guns, Lotus, etc.  A lot of people in their late 20s-early 30s were Amiga users as kids, and people in their early-mid 20s will have have older siblings who owned Amigas so know them too.

I wouldn't say the ex-Amiga users are all now geriatric patients.
 

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Re: What is the future of Amiga?
« Reply #91 on: November 29, 2010, 07:41:04 PM »
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Im not too sure things will change drastically, some people will continue to enjoy the amiga in whatever form(s) they have an interest, while others will continue to talk to themselves in the open about how dead it is, or question choices and/or efforts made by people that develop for the machine theyve been deeming dead for years. I've never understood these people, do they really think telling those that do enjoy thier "amigas" (in whatever form) things theyre not aware of ?

I enjoy my amiga hobby, but Im well aware that it has some shortcomings in regards to mainstream standards and expectations, but it gives me other things I cant get elsewhere as well.

As for those doubting a persons ability to make do soley with an Amiga, how is this so hard to believe ? Sure, the browsing leaves something to be desired on OS3.x, but there's not a lot of bases that cant be covered with some effort.


I think people overlook that there's more to the internet than web browsing and there's a lot more to computers than the internet :)
 

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Re: What is the future of Amiga?
« Reply #92 on: November 29, 2010, 07:48:12 PM »
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I think people overlook that there's more to the internet than web browsing and there's a lot more to computers than the internet :)


Well said! :)
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Re: What is the future of Amiga?
« Reply #93 on: November 29, 2010, 07:50:13 PM »
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The reason we are here (on Amiga forums) is for one thing. Nostalgia. We like our classic Amiga's and remember the good old days.


I second that Alex.  For me its pure retro nostalgia.... doing things now with Amiga hardware that I could never afford or attain back when it was 'current'.
 

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Re: What is the future of Amiga?
« Reply #94 on: November 29, 2010, 07:53:11 PM »
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Those who claim there is no evidence of climate change soon change their minds when they get flooded out and lose all their belongings... :)

Scotland never really has much of a summer but for the past 4 years now we've had nothing at all, it's done nothing but pish doon and the sun is now nothing more than a myth we tell our grandchildren about... :)


I love the Northern Irish weather.  It matches the general undercurrent of emotion.

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Re: What is the future of Amiga?
« Reply #95 on: November 29, 2010, 07:56:54 PM »
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I love the Northern Irish weather.  It matches the general undercurrent of emotion.


I see what you mean, miserable and depressing... :lol:
 

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Re: What is the future of Amiga?
« Reply #96 on: November 29, 2010, 08:55:24 PM »
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Well it's obvious that as a big brand consumer item the Amiga has been a long time dead.  I don't get why you think age has anything to do with buying a computer regularly nor what it has to do with a revitalisation of the brand name. I know plenty of folk aged 50+ that constantly buy new computers or laptops (PC's)



agreed. My very first computer may have been an Amiga 2000 in 1989, but I have had more since then. Including another Amiga that I regularly used to make web pages, and write articles about ImageFX for an online magazine (which I got PAID for). AND make various animations for projects - which I got PAID for.
Imagine that! Amiga's can generate income. :)

plus, there's another subtle point that many people seem to miss. I'll try to explain but no guarantee that i will succeed.

When I got my Amiga there were no classes on computer animation/graphics. I learned how to do all that On MY Amiga. In my own time. Eventually I moved to LA which had a ton of computer (Amiga) groups at the time and I learned a bit from those people. But I also walked in there knowing a lot about what I had learned using DeluxePaint and AdPro and ImageFX, etc.

Here's the subtle part: Because the Amiga could multitask REALLY well, I learned how to have a certain work flow that continues to this day no MATTER WHICH OS I happen to be using. MAC, Linux, Windows....whatever. Amiga habits live on.

I used those same Amiga work habits when I did special effects. I became very good at figuring out software Because I had started out using an Amiga. When I went for jobs which used proprietary software, i impressed the potential employers with my VERY fast learning curve on software that I had never seen before. And I'm talking about MINUTES.

All that and more is possible because the Amiga is a great teaching machine. People may think the Amiga is "dead", but not in my life, it ain't.

I may not have touched an actual Amiga machine in a while, but the Amiga way of THINKING is in my head and it's not going anywhere.
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Re: What is the future of Amiga?
« Reply #97 on: November 29, 2010, 09:28:05 PM »
@ cecilia

I too taught myself everything I know about computers since I got my first Vic 20 back around 82. I ran my own DTP/Grahics Design business around 87 with nothing more than 2 A500's and a couple of Star dot matrix printers and made a tidy sum from doing so.

But I have never left the Amiga since I got my first A1000 in 86, why some folk can't believe that I can achieve all I need from a computer from just using an Amiga is beyond me as is their disbelief that I've only been on the internet for about 6 months and because I can place a link in a post somehow makes me a liar.

The Amiga has taught me that you don't need gigabytes of ram and over bloated code just to achieve a simple task, it's a joy to use and teaches you how to code and perform tasks efficiently without the need for the latest super duper all singing & dancing processor.

No matter what the doubter have to say I don't need to prove myself to them and they can disbelieve all they want as it's not a problem to me. Being of an age where we didn't even have a computers at school and no one to teach us about them, I reckon that's the big difference between older folk like myself (gawd older folk I'm only 46) and the some of younger generations who were born into a world where computers were already established as part of everyday life.

I for one am glad and indeed feel privileged to have been around at the start of true home computing and really wish that some of the younger folk who don't understand this would open their minds to the simple fact that the need for speed and more lifelike graphics just to play a silly 3D game is not all that computing is about, but sadly for some of them I don't think they will ever see it that way. Oh well it's their loss not mine... :)

(and before you youngsters start jumping down my throat, I said SOME not ALL of you... :))
 

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Re: What is the future of Amiga?
« Reply #98 on: November 29, 2010, 09:48:49 PM »
I don't understand why posting a link is hard   :confused:

Isn't it done automatically when you type a http://www.whatever.com address?

It's not rocket science.
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Re: What is the future of Amiga?
« Reply #99 on: November 29, 2010, 09:50:47 PM »
you see it just did then. when i typed http://www.whatever.com it came up underlined and as a link.

soooooo hard.
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Re: What is the future of Amiga?
« Reply #100 on: November 29, 2010, 09:58:56 PM »
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I too taught myself everything I know about computers since I got my first Vic 20 back around 82.

The Amiga has taught me that you don't need gigabytes of ram and over bloated code just to achieve a simple task, it's a joy to use and teaches you how to code and perform tasks efficiently without the need for the latest super duper all singing & dancing processor.

No matter what the doubter have to say I don't need to prove myself to them and they can disbelieve all they want as it's not a problem to me. Being of an age where we didn't even have a computers at school and no one to teach us about them, I reckon that's the big difference between older folk like myself (gawd older folk I'm only 46) and the some of younger generations who were born into a world where computers were already established as part of everyday life.

I for one am glad and indeed feel privileged to have been around at the start of true home computing and really wish that some of the younger folk who don't understand this would open their minds to the simple fact that the need for speed and more lifelike graphics just to play a silly 3D game is not all that computing is about, but sadly for some of them I don't think they will ever see it that way.


This is what separates us nerds from the geeks Franko. :)

I started with a Commodore Plus/4. I had to code my own stuff, otherwise I'd have had nowt to use! Lol
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Re: What is the future of Amiga?
« Reply #101 on: November 30, 2010, 12:30:03 AM »
Pay $5, Eat $10 at Chick-O-Pea's Falafel Restaurant?

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you see it just did then. when i typed http://www.whatever.com it came up underlined and as a link.

soooooo hard.
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Re: What is the future of Amiga?
« Reply #102 on: November 30, 2010, 12:43:52 AM »
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their disbelief that I've only been on the internet for about 6 months and because I can place a link in a post somehow makes me a liar.


Dammy was probably just remembering how long it took him to master hyperlinks.
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Re: What is the future of Amiga?
« Reply #103 on: November 30, 2010, 12:51:00 AM »
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Dammy was probably just remembering how long it took him to master hyperlinks.


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Re: What is the future of Amiga?
« Reply #104 on: November 30, 2010, 12:52:14 AM »
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Pay $5, Eat $10 at Chick-O-Pea's Falafel Restaurant?

I think you took that a bit too literally i think. It was only a metaphor.  :)

A question. Are there any www addresse's left? If the only one available is whatever.com then i think i have my answer
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