The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...

[Tension]

Still think we should have troll of the year award....

[bloodline]

All in all, a recycling operation then :roflmao:

My recent visit back to Moo reminded me that I practically learned how to argue/debate because of the Amiga Holy wars!

[Karlos]

My recent visit back to Moo reminded me that I practically learned how to argue/debate because of the Amiga Holy wars!

I got the impression someone there doesn't like me very much :lol:

[Tension]

I got the impression someone there doesn't like me very much :lol:

"It is a silly place..."

[Karlos]

"It is a silly place..."

[Franko]

@ skilgannon

ahh... the good auld days up at ra Barras, spent many a Saturday and Sunday their buying and trading all the latest games, and running like hell when someone shouted 'it's ra polis'... :lol:

I even remember once spotting a A500 for sale lying in a manky puddle at Paddies Market...

[bloodline]

I got the impression someone there doesn't like me very much :lol:

At least they care enough to kick up a fuss... the biggest insult is to be ignored...

[Karlos]

At least they care enough to kick up a fuss... the biggest insult is to be ignored...

:lol: I suppose so...

[Iggy]

When maximum performance matters to me, I have my Linux box which can easily crush any box you can MorphOS on while running several instances of AROS and UAE hosted side by side, as well as assorted other VM's if I so want.

Old PowerPC based Mac's simply have no appeal to me, regardless which OS they run. We recently threw a fully working one away at work because nobody could be bothered taking it home.



MorphOS on a G5 wouldn't be a realistic system for everyday use for me either. I don't have any animosity towards MorphOS but it just doesn't interest me - AROS appeals to me because it's open source, and AmigaOS4/X1000 appeals to me because it's new hardware specifically designed for AmigaOS. Classic AmigaOS appeals to me because, well, it's M68k and the classic chipset or derivations of it that I know and love. MorphOS has none of those.

If MorphOS does it for you, then good for you, but to me it doesn't matter at all if it's more "cost effective". Cost effective is what my Linux box is for.

I'm not "blowing my money" on anything. I'm spending money on things I enjoy to tinker with. As I said: It's a hobby.

Well obviously you do have a bias. And I couldn't care less if your Linux box wants to blow me (away).
New hardware designed for AmigaOS? AOS4 and MorphOS are frightengly similar products and neither supports classic hardware w/o a PPC processor.
If you're fixated on 68K and OCS/ECS that's one thing, but then you mention interest in the X1000.
I admit I like that computer too. I'd Like it better if it ran MorphOS.

And I wish Linux users, UAE users, and X86 fanatics in general would stop trying to convince me that they've got some exceptional solution. I have a PC. I'm posting this on a Mac.

And when the X1000 is finally available, I'll probably still be using a Mac, not just because its cost effective, because they perform better than PPC systems available to AmigaOS users.

Its a shame that Hyperion didn't release a final version if AOS4 for the Mac Mini, they might have sold a few more copies of their OS to people who want more performance than you can get from an Applied Micro based Acube motherboard.  And Franko, its not that I think running blurays on a computer is practical, its just that we may have the power to do it (without having to resort to a PC).

As I've said before, whatever you prefer is fine by me as long as you're supporting some segment of the community.

X1000's ATI R700  support says Hi.

Great! Where can I buy one?

[Tension]

Knew you'd get it straight away!!1

[Tension]

Great! Where can I buy one?

LOL Aren't we all a bunch of cynical bastards these days!  :lol:

Excellent!

[Franko]

LOL Aren't we all a bunch of cynical bastards these days!  :lol:

Excellent!

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I reckon there were subliminal messages in the old guru meditations that turned us all into cynical bastards... :roflmao:

[Iggy]

LOL Aren't we all a bunch of cynical bastards these days!  :lol:

Excellent!

Yah, I can be a real dick sometimes, but everyone's got to have a hobby.

You know, I was in contact with Varisys before the connection between them and A-eon was reveiled. In fact we were speculating on MorphZone about the possibility before the announcement.

I really DO like that machine and to those who speculate that its not a good design, let me tell you I know one of the designers and Varisys knows their sh*t.

I'd also love a Natami when Thomas gets it ready for sale. Register level compatibility with classic hardware would be great.

I just know what I need for a daily use system (and I have it).

[Franko]

I just know what I need for a daily use system (and I have it).

Reckon that's what really matters at the end of the day...

I think we all just still like to try and convince each other that our own personal choice is the best way to go as it passes the time as we all sit here getting older and waiting for something to happen, kinda like old age pensioners comparing ailments & diseases with each other...

[vidarh]

New hardware designed for AmigaOS? AOS4 and MorphOS are frightengly similar products and neither supports classic hardware w/o a PPC processor.
If you're fixated on 68K and OCS/ECS that's one thing, but then you mention interest in the X1000.

Well, I mentioned three different things that draw me to three different solutions that all appeal to me for their connections to the "Amiga feeling". Maybe I take a look at MorphOS some day too, if it gets ported to some more interesting hardware.

Personally I very much hope that cross-Amiga-like OS development will start to get easier, as I while I actually find the diversity a strength in some ways (we're pretty much guaranteed to always have hardware that can run one of our OS's directly or in emulation, for starters...), where it really sucks is in duplication of effort in porting and writing new software. That's our biggest weakness at the moment.

[zylesea]

My standpoint:
I come a long way from 68k, but started migration to ppc more than a decade ago. I sold all my 68k stuff except a vanilla A600. I like the Arcade replay though and am thinking of accquiring one for the retro part in me.
But I am not much of a retro guy, but look rather forward. I try to get the best and most optimized solution. Hence I migrated to MorphOS. Currently I use it for about 90% of my private computing things (Skye is one of the few things I boot Linux or OS X for) and a good amount of my job's computer things.
MorphOS is highly optimized and matured, many apps available for it are really nice. I think it is the most advanced Amigaish system today *by far*.
But I also like AROS. It is open source and free and catches up. And it runs on even more hardware. For MorphOS and OS4 on ppc the air is rather thin on the hardware side. MorphOS at least supports proven, easily and cheaply availabe hardware that is good enough for the next couple of years.
What I also like on MorphOS is the developers and most users. Usually they view things rather realistic. No pipe dreams, but realistic views. And I use MorphOS since the 0.4 release and while many things during the first half of the recent decade didn't developed as hoped the MorphOS team didn't quit but proceeded and the development pace is good today.
The next big step will be the powerbook support. And while I used WinUAE on a laptop ages ago, this will be a new level (this is where AROS actually leads).
Plus, it is big fun to see OS X struggle on things that MorphOS does on the same hardware quite well.
With my about 10 years af MorphOS support I thing I drove quite well and don't see a point to change that. But I will take AROS more into consideration as well (but it is still miles awaay from MorphOS) and maybe add myself an arcade replay maschine for fun of it.