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Offline tone007

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Re: Linux/Windows flame wars
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2010, 11:21:11 AM »
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there are games on facebook, and some porn is pretty creative.

be quiet.

oh and porn has been around since the C64 days.  Quit being a bigot.


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Offline fishy_fiz

Re: Linux/Windows flame wars
« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2010, 03:06:01 PM »
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Firefox, Google Chrome (combined 43% of market share) and Apache (58% of server market) seems to disagree with you.

You are misunderstanding how software works, though.
The operating system and the software you run on it have nothing to do with each other. You can use proprietary software on linux (I own Quake wars and Prey f.x.) and you can use open source software on windows (firefox f.x.)




Take two people with no previous computer experience and sit one in front of a linux machine, and one in front of a windows machine. I'll guarantee there'll be no difference in their ability to do their daily stuff. Why would there? Either way, you are just clicking on icons.

Windows is familiar because you've already used it, not because there's somehow anything more intuitive or helpful about it. (if you don't believe me, google "windows troubleshooting" or similar and see how many millions of hits you get.


Will linux ever "rule" the desktop ?

No more than amiga ever would have ruled it.

Does it matter ?

No. The choice is there for those who want it (stability, freedom). The desktop is only one tiny bit of what linux is, can and does.


Firstly, I didnt say always in regards to open source software. There are examples (as you've given) when open source software is used as heavily as commercial efforts, I have no trouble admitting that and never said otherwise. Predominantely relying on open source and having access to are pretty different things though. As for me not understanding how software works,.... after 30 years of being into computers and developing I think I have a pretty good handle on it. Thanks anyway. Additionally I did say that I know Linux gaming is on the up, and I even mentioned things like WINE to be able to play commercial Windows software, but performance isnt what it is on Windows a lot of the time (as I already said as well). Also,... my post was ripe with me suggesting it doesnt matter to me anyway. I simply stated some reasons why Windows is a lot more dominant on the desktop than linux and why linux has little chance of making headway.


Seriously, did you even read my post, or just skimp through it and try to find fault ? Most of the things you've bought up I addressed already in my post, and both sides of the coin.
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: Linux/Windows flame wars
« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2010, 03:15:51 PM »
Bring on the hologram computering.
I am a negative, rude, prick.  


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Offline runequester

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Re: Linux/Windows flame wars
« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2010, 07:35:00 PM »
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Firstly, I didnt say always in regards to open source software. There are examples (as you've given) when open source software is used as heavily as commercial efforts, I have no trouble admitting that and never said otherwise. Predominantely relying on open source and having access to are pretty different things though. As for me not understanding how software works,.... after 30 years of being into computers and developing I think I have a pretty good handle on it. Thanks anyway. Additionally I did say that I know Linux gaming is on the up, and I even mentioned things like WINE to be able to play commercial Windows software, but performance isnt what it is on Windows a lot of the time (as I already said as well). Also,... my post was ripe with me suggesting it doesnt matter to me anyway. I simply stated some reasons why Windows is a lot more dominant on the desktop than linux and why linux has little chance of making headway.


Seriously, did you even read my post, or just skimp through it and try to find fault ? Most of the things you've bought up I addressed already in my post, and both sides of the coin.


Sorry man. Didn't mean to do the post ripping thing. What I was /trying/ to get across is something a lot of people tend to miss, which is that open source and proprietary aren't either / or affairs.

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Re: Linux/Windows flame wars
« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2010, 09:22:04 PM »
I disagree that the desktop PC is almost finished. The cost of manufacturing is cheaper. If you look at tablets or smart phones they will cost more because they are small and when you make computers small and compact it costs more to manufacture.

If you look at the mac mini you would probably say they were over priced but in my opinion that is only half right. When you build small the cost goes up whereas the desktop PC doesn't have to worry about that so they stay cheap. As long as desktop PCs are cheaper to manufacture they will always be prominent.

That's also my opinion about all in one PCs. I saw an Acer all in one that was priced double its worth. Admittedly it had a touch screen but still. Same with the imac - A PC compacted into a small form forces the price up.
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Offline Karlos

Re: Linux/Windows flame wars
« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2010, 09:33:44 PM »
Seems almost familiar:

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Offline rebraist

Re: Linux/Windows flame wars
« Reply #36 on: November 25, 2010, 09:49:10 PM »
linux is a glorious unix clone but nothing more than a clone.
osx is an (worse than linux) unix clone for posers and those who wanna be alternative even knowing that the big brother is out there sucking their blood and spitting smoke in their brain.
windows is the only original thing out there. made by an evil demon. but sometimes demons may be shy (ask to deep purple).
linus thorvald has been kidnapped by the aliens.
steve jobs makes money killing chinese workers.
bill and belinda gates gives his (not their, just his) money in charity to the poor.
commodore usa ceo is making a big amiga (BIG AMIGA) based on a big cpu: the xxx86. And a proprietary os: osama...
 
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Re: Linux/Windows flame wars
« Reply #37 on: November 25, 2010, 09:52:03 PM »
That kid on that computer setup is priceless   :)

I don't know why but it reminds me of playdough  :rolleyes:


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Offline Sparky

Re: Linux/Windows flame wars
« Reply #38 on: November 25, 2010, 10:00:02 PM »
Guys!  you do realise that this thread is really REALLY sad don't you ?  I seem to remember there being a bit of a difference back when it was "Amiga vs Atari" ... I think it was that we were all about 12 years old ....
 

Offline Amiduffer

Re: Linux/Windows flame wars
« Reply #39 on: November 25, 2010, 10:19:02 PM »
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Seems almost familiar:



Holy crap Karlos. That was priceless. :lol:

All that matters is that it function. So far, everyone in the office who has asked me to replace Windows with Ubuntu has been satisfied because it works. It plays videos, it has a functional word processor, and all the other basic functions that folks normally need computers for.
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Offline Karlos

Re: Linux/Windows flame wars
« Reply #40 on: November 25, 2010, 10:23:06 PM »
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Holy crap Karlos. That was priceless. :lol:


As much as I'd like to take credit for that illustration, I can't :lol:

BTW, if you liked that, you'll love this...
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Offline Buzzfuzz

Re: Linux/Windows flame wars
« Reply #41 on: November 25, 2010, 10:30:04 PM »
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That's not being a fanboy, that's using what you're familiar with because it's the quickest way to get something done.

Couldn't agree more, and as most people say, I don't care.
 
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Re: Linux/Windows flame wars
« Reply #42 on: November 25, 2010, 10:50:32 PM »
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Damnit, http://amigaporn.com/ is taken.


Hi,

HMMMM Wonder how the Amiga porn site would look in 3D.

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Offline Amiduffer

Re: Linux/Windows flame wars
« Reply #43 on: November 25, 2010, 11:41:12 PM »
Quote from: Karlos;594365
As much as I'd like to take credit for that illustration, I can't :lol:

BTW, if you liked that, you'll love this...

That's OK. I saw that picture earlier. As one who has only had practical experience with classic hardware and OS up to 3.9, I can only look with bemused detachment at the arguments between Morph/AROS/4.1 users.

There's the chance of snagging a powerMac G4 real cheap, so, I might get the chance at becoming a MorphOS fanboy.
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