The Amiga911 boot disk.

[dannyp1]

This is really neat!!  Thank You!!

[Gulliver]

Well done! Thank you

[PanterHZ]

F-ing thanks for the feedback everybody

But it doesn't stop here, because I'm pretty sure that some of you don't quite agree with the choice of programs that can be included on the boot disk. So tell me, what other programs would you like to be supported? This can be alternative file managers and text editors plus whatever else you think might be useful on such a disk.

Just have in mind the following limitations:
- No MUI programs
- No ARexx stuff
- The program should not be too large (in file size)

I can start with DOpus since I'm sure that some of you would like to see this file manager included, but in order for me to do this, I will need some help since I personally haven't used this program that much. So tell me what version should be included? On aminet there's version 4.12, 4.14 & 4.16, which one of these should I choose?

Another thing is that apart from the main DirectoryOpus file, what else is really required for a minimal bare bones install?

One last thing. All DOpus versions on aminet requires at least a 68020 processor, but since I don't want to leave anybody out, is there a version of DOpus on the net that works with 68000 processors as well?

[PanterHZ]

Actually, i'm having an error in Gui4CLI "Makedir error code 10 ABORTED" just by creating the project name.

Have i made an error in the installation?

Hmmm... Well I have made it so that Amiga911 Maker could be used directly without having to install anything, the files to copy which are mentioned in the documentation are optional. The only thing I can think of which causes this error is:

- You used some "illegal" characters in your project name.
- There isn't a Projects directory in the "Amiga911 Maker" dir, if this is the case you will have to create it manually.

[Xanxi]

Hmmm... Well I have made it so that Amiga911 Maker could be used directly without having to install anything, the files to copy which are mentioned in the documentation are optional. The only thing I can think of which causes this error is:

- You used some "illegal" characters in your project name.
- There isn't a Projects directory in the "Amiga911 Maker" dir, if this is the case you will have to create it manually.

Yes it is working now.
However, i have been unable to make a disk with everything within 880 KB.
I followed the tutorial on the website and made a not too stuffed project but disk is full before the end of the files copying. On a second try i removed some more programs but still the same.
Actual size of the files is 941 KB.

[Tenacious]

This can be alternative file managers and text editors plus whatever else you think might be useful on such a disk.

Just have in mind the following limitations:
- No MUI programs
- No ARexx stuff
- The program should not be too large (in file size)

Ordering (   http://aminet.net/util/dir/Ordering_v1.18.lha ) is much smaller and faster than Dopus 4.xx.  Fast even on 68000 CPUs.

[PanterHZ]

Yes it is working now.
However, i have been unable to make a disk with everything within 880 KB.
I followed the tutorial on the website and made a not too stuffed project but disk is full before the end of the files copying. On a second try i removed some more programs but still the same.
Actual size of the files is 941 KB.

When you created the project, did you enable the "Create Low-Mem disk" option for making a disk which is meant for Amigas with less than 2MB RAM?
If this is the case, you unfortunately can't include as much stuff on the disk as you can with the "normal" disk (which is meant for Amigas with 2MB or more RAM).
The reason for this is that fewer files will be included in the LZX archives when creating a Low-Mem disk, this in turn means that the files not included will stay uncompressed and use more space on the disk. This was unfortunately the only way I could include support for Amigas with low memory, and it seems like I forgot to mention this in the tutorial.

So if you really created a Low-Mem disk project, I'm sorry to say that you most likely can't include any programs on the disk.

But I do however have plans of making it possible for the users to create an additional "Extras" disk where all the stuff that wouldn't fit on the main boot floppy can be added instead.

[PanterHZ]

Ordering (    http://aminet.net/util/dir/Ordering_v1.18.lha ) is much smaller and faster than Dopus 4.xx.  Fast even on 68000 CPUs.

Yes, support for Ordering will be included in Amiga911 Maker

And to all you others, please follow Tenacious's example here when you suggest programs to be included,  do mention what it does and where it can be found. This will make things a lot easier for me.

[stefcep2]

Is it possible to have a version for 68040/68060 cards?  I have an Apollo A1260 and a cyberstorm  2 68060 A4000.  The phase 5 68040/68060 library archives work on both- I have compact flash card that I can use in both and i can boot both, but neither will boot without the libraries.

[mfilos]

Awesome stuff man! Thanks a lot

[Xanxi]

When you created the project, did you enable the "Create Low-Mem disk" option for making a disk which is meant for Amigas with less than 2MB RAM?
If this is the case, you unfortunately can't include as much stuff on the disk as you can with the "normal" disk (which is meant for Amigas with 2MB or more RAM).
The reason for this is that fewer files will be included in the LZX archives when creating a Low-Mem disk, this in turn means that the files not included will stay uncompressed and use more space on the disk. This was unfortunately the only way I could include support for Amigas with low memory, and it seems like I forgot to mention this in the tutorial.

So if you really created a Low-Mem disk project, I'm sorry to say that you most likely can't include any programs on the disk.

But I do however have plans of making it possible for the users to create an additional "Extras" disk where all the stuff that wouldn't fit on the main boot floppy can be added instead.

No, i have not choosen the low memory version as i have a large amount of RAM.
I am puzzled by the disk creation, maybe i will just wait for the next version with the "creat disk" option activated

[Gulliver]

One last thing. All DOpus versions on aminet requires at least a 68020 processor, but since I don't want to leave anybody out, is there a version of DOpus on the net that works with 68000 processors as well?

DOpus 4.12 from the CU Amiga coverdisk works for 68000, get it from http://www.guildserver.co.uk/AMR/cu_amiga_coverdisks/cu_1995_02_d100.zip

[Khephren]

Back when I had a base A1200 (ok, it was '92, so my memory is hazy) I used to powepack a lot of the stuff on the boot floppy, it would uncompress on the fly. Is there a better on the fly library that could do this?

Also, Dopus might be overkill, there are other nice (but small) filemanagers out there.

[Gulliver]

Back when I had a base A1200 (ok, it was '92, so my memory is hazy) I used to powepack a lot of the stuff on the boot floppy, it would uncompress on the fly. Is there a better on the fly library that could do this?

Turbo Imploder does the job pretty well, and it is free. It is available on Aminet.

[Jope]

Powerpacker combined with pploadseg is good for low mem situations.. IIRC you can even pack libraries, but don't quote me on that.

[persia]

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