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AROS 68k - for mac and atari?
« on: November 19, 2010, 11:08:11 PM »
I just was thinking, if aros for 68k amiga was made to work, dosn't that mean aros for atari and 68k mac could be next?

That would be kinda cool because the st's are pretty nice machines if you get rid of the absolutely horrid OS. 68k macs are okay I suppose... But I'd be more excited to see aros for atari st's.
 
I would think atari fans would be too, mint and all the atari st os projects...Well they kind of blow. There are some nice sound and graphics programs for st though...
 
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Re: AROS 68k - for mac and atari?
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2010, 11:10:15 PM »
Who is going to port the hardware drivers?

TOS is fine if all you want to do is load hard drive installed games... which is about all an ST is good for these days. Don't forget that there are few accelerators for the ST range unlike the Amiga. Not worth using productivity software for that platform these days. Games and Nostalgia only.
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Re: AROS 68k - for mac and atari?
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2010, 11:11:33 PM »
I think Atari aficionados enjoy their OS as much as we enjoy ours. Hardware wise, their 68K development has continued and gone further than it has on the Amiga platform. So, an AROS 68K port to the Falcon, Hades etc. would certainly be a nice thing for 68K amiga fans.
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Re: AROS 68k - for mac and atari?
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2010, 11:20:37 PM »
A Falcon port would be nice... but my current focus is the ARM... I have a lovely 100Mhz ARM M3 (LPC 1768) dev board here, that is easy to program and great fun :)

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Re: AROS 68k - for mac and atari?
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2010, 11:42:22 PM »
4 Ghz Arm to be introduced by Freescale in 2011. I don't know about AROs for this platform, but there's been some push for a MorphOS ARM port.
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Re: AROS 68k - for mac and atari?
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2010, 11:47:23 PM »
ARM assembler is cool. As well as choosing whether to update the condition codes (which you can do on PPC too, of course) I love being able to conditionally execute instructions :)
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Re: AROS 68k - for mac and atari?
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2010, 11:56:42 PM »
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4 Ghz Arm to be introduced by Freescale in 2011. I don't know about AROs for this platform, but there's been some push for a MorphOS ARM port.
AROS already has an ARM port... Pavel and michal have been working on a couple (iPhone and EFIKA) :)

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Re: AROS 68k - for mac and atari?
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2010, 12:01:34 AM »
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ARM assembler is cool. As well as choosing whether to update the condition codes (which you can do on PPC too, of course) I love being able to conditionally execute instructions :)
ARM is lovely (With a fascinating history, hats off to Rodger/Sophie Wilson)... I can't wait until they get their HPC designs together... intel and AMD are gonna suffer big! :p
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Re: AROS 68k - for mac and atari?
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2010, 12:14:12 AM »
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ARM is lovely (With a fascinating history, hats off to Rodger/Sophie Wilson)... I can't wait until they get their HPC designs together... intel and AMD are gonna suffer big! :p


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Re: AROS 68k - for mac and atari?
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2010, 12:30:43 AM »
It would be nice to give my Macintosh Quadra some cool use with AROS. It is a very interesting machine.
 

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Re: AROS 68k - for mac and atari?
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2010, 01:03:41 AM »
@gulliver
Might be nice even to find the way for some old-world powermac like my old p6400 at home in italy to support AROS; the ppc-port is already dome guess is matter of porting the drivers (and for me to expand the RAM at more than the actual 32m)

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Re: AROS 68k - for mac and atari?
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2010, 01:40:18 AM »
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A Falcon port would be nice... but my current focus is the ARM... I have a lovely 100Mhz ARM M3 (LPC 1768) dev board here, that is easy to program and great fun :)

@bloodline, do you have any recommended sources of some good info where I could better acquaint myself with the ARM?

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Re: AROS 68k - for mac and atari?
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2010, 02:02:29 AM »
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@bloodline, do you have any recommended sources of some good info where I could better acquaint myself with the ARM?

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Re: AROS 68k - for mac and atari?
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2010, 03:00:00 AM »
AROS could be ported to other old m68k machines but that generally requires someone with the machines (or a good emulator of them) doing the port for the necessary driver support.  There's probably netbsd or similar driver sources out there that could be used as a reference.  I doubt there is much interest out there to make it happen.  I'd expect most classic machine owners to have a preference for the original OSes and apps that came along with their machines.  Personally, I'm more interested in seeing AROS run on currently manufactured and future production hardware platforms, and getting lots of updates and upgrades along the way, while still feeling Amiga-ish to me.  I'm so tired of putting up with Windows, Linux/Xorg, OSX, etc. all these years since Gateway2000 did the Amiga platform in and the marketplace collapsed around it.
 

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Re: AROS 68k - for mac and atari?
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2010, 03:20:03 AM »
It would be cool if someone used the executor sources to build a toolbox layer in AROS 68k so that classic macintosh applications would run inside wanderer, sort of like wine does with windows. I suppose the same could be done with GEM, but someone has already said that TOS applications aren't that interesting (albeit I have heard that atari st music apps were the rage back in the day).