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Bounties for Games?
« on: November 12, 2010, 10:02:39 PM »
I realize Game are really not a priority for the Amiga community, but they certainly are fun! Besides, with the right games ported, that can open up the doors for the non-coding segment of the community to give back in the form of game mods.

So here are my thoughts: I'd really love to see Odamex ported to MorphOS and what ever Amiga based OS will handle it. I know it uses the SDL library and has been ported to PPC Linux, so it should not be much trouble. With it we would have an enhanced port of the DOOM source code that is very network friendly and adds a ton of features that were not available in standard DOOM as ID Software left it, I.E. Jumping, Free Look, fully customizable keys, Wind Currents, Iced Surfaces, Fog, Protective Drones, DeHacked, Bex, Conveyor belts, Translucent walls, more key support, etc. etc. etc. Not nearly as feature rich as GzDOOM, but certainly enough to take DOOM to the next level. And again I must emphasize that this port was created with Networking in mind. That means more Co-Op, Death Match, Capture the Flag goodness!

Now, the thing is that coding and porting takes time and I'm sure people are already busy porting the things that they find useful or of interest otherwise this would have been ported already. So I'm asking the community here,"do you think it would be idiotic for me to try to raise a bounty for a project such as this, the 3DO emulator, a PSX emulator with full Joypad support, or other gaming related ports? As I'm more than ready to law down $200 to get the motivation started."
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Re: Bounties for Games?
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2010, 11:52:57 PM »
I would love it if we could start bounties for games, both for ports or for finding coders to write specific engines that can be used by others to make new, original games.

I wonder if Power2People would be a good place to host bounties if they were aimed at more than just Aros. Each bounty on there currently has "Target: Aros" on it, but perhaps they could have MorphOS, OS3 and OS4 added if a particular bounty requires the code to run on those systems too. Of course being Aros bounties, any that are taken up are usually open-sourced and are free to be ported to the other systems even if they weren't the intended original target.

There is a site called Amiga Bounty, but they are strictly OS4-only. They had the choice to join with the rest of the Amiga community and offer the website as a platform for all Amiga flavours to host bounties on, but these are the kind of primitive-thinking Amigans who ruin the community spirit with their hatred for anything that doesn't have the brand name on it. I'm sure it's fine for OS4 users, but they choose to leave themselves out of the greater community for their own selfish reasons (the site owners, not the users).

The other option is for someone with web development skills to start a new ALL-Amiga Bounty site for us all to use, but I think it would be best to find out if we could use Power2People for non-Aros bounties first.
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Re: Bounties for Games?
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2010, 12:15:33 AM »
Quote from: Cammy;591323
I would love it if we could start bounties for games, both for ports or for finding coders to write specific engines that can be used by others to make new, original games.

I wonder if Power2People would be a good place to host bounties if they were aimed at more than just Aros. Each bounty on there currently has "Target: Aros" on it, but perhaps they could have MorphOS, OS3 and OS4 added if a particular bounty requires the code to run on those systems too. Of course being Aros bounties, any that are taken up are usually open-sourced and are free to be ported to the other systems even if they weren't the intended original target.

There is a site called Amiga Bounty, but they are strictly OS4-only. They had the choice to join with the rest of the Amiga community and offer the website as a platform for all Amiga flavours to host bounties on, but these are the kind of primitive-thinking Amigans who ruin the community spirit with their hatred for anything that doesn't have the brand name on it. I'm sure it's fine for OS4 users, but they choose to leave themselves out of the greater community for their own selfish reasons (the site owners, not the users).

The other option is for someone with web development skills to start a new ALL-Amiga Bounty site for us all to use, but I think it would be best to find out if we could use Power2People for non-Aros bounties first.


Yes cammy, the source code of any c++ need to be changed to specific os (os4, mos, etc) and sometimes need reworked code.
Well, a good notice now i am working with several ports to morphos and os4, but for the moment, only one is finished, OpenBOR v3 MorphOS (available in aminet).
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Re: Bounties for Games?
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2010, 12:22:06 AM »
Quote from: Cammy;591323


I wonder if Power2People would be a good place to host bounties if they were aimed at more than just Aros. Each bounty on there currently has "Target: Aros" on it, but perhaps they could have MorphOS, OS3 and OS4 added if a particular bounty requires the code to run on those systems too. Of course being Aros bounties, any that are taken up are usually open-sourced and are free to be ported to the other systems even if they weren't the intended original target.



@Cammy
I already emailed Power2People a couple of months ago about hosting bounties for AmigaOS 68k, and they said:
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I would like to refer you to the Power2People bounty rules:
http://www.power2people.org/bountyrules.html

There are no restrictions with regard to the target operating system of
Power2People bounty projects. We will gladly accept "AmigaOS" bounties if
someone proposes them and provides the required initial donations.
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So YES :)
 

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Re: Bounties for Games?
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2010, 12:26:29 AM »
This is an interesting idea. I've been making some efforts at an Amiga game engine that I was planning on open-sourcing anyway, but I wouldn't object to getting paid for it ;)
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Re: Bounties for Games?
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2010, 12:35:45 AM »
i am porting the game "Anvil Of Dawn" to MorphOS (multilanguage and talkie) :)
the game is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pvf415GQuA
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Re: Bounties for Games?
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2010, 05:42:44 AM »
Dani: I'm glad to see you've taken interest in writing/porting for MorphOS! I had considered making a Star Wars (yes everything with me is Star Wars) based game for BOR at one time, but never began work on it as I'm already pretty far behind my intended schedule with my Star Wars total conversion for Odamex. As for Avatar, that looks a lot like Dungeon Master! I can't wait! That would sit nicely on my hard drive next to Exult! :)
 Would you believe someone is actually writing a Dungeon Master clone for Atari 8-bit computers with 1Mb or RAM? :)

Anyhow, I'm sure you can see my angle here and why I am so Odamex centric. I wanna bring my own Star Wars vision to the Amiga!!! ;)
 My project used to be directed at PrBOOM, but once I realized that Odamex basically was PrBOOM, but with Jumping, Looking, and Advanced Networking support, I just had to switch my focus all together! I don't think there is a more finely polished project that is more deserving of a port to MorphOS/AROS than the Odamex source enhancement project. Mind you GzDOOM brings Advanced Scripting, 3D Models, and MANY MANY MANY other modern gaming features to the table, but that would more than likely be a terribly troublesome port, once I'm sure I can not afford! Besides you need a pretty hefty graphics card to get all you can out of that engine. It's crazy the things they do with DOOM.

As for existing projects on MorphOS, I'd love to see the PSX emu receive and update with proper joypad support as I've STILL not figured out a way to successfully assign my directional pad movements to keys on the keyboard, which is the only thing keeping me from enjoying Playstation games right now. :/


commodorejohn: care to tell us more about this engine?
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Re: Bounties for Games?
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2010, 06:38:06 AM »
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i am porting the game "Anvil Of Dawn" to MorphOS (multilanguage and talkie) :)
the game is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pvf415GQuA

I prefer the turn based strategy games over the first person shooter (or in this case "slasher"), but I am glad to see more people interested in porting and/or writing games and other applications for MorphOS, AmigaOS4.x and AROS.

I was making some efforts to create a group for programmers and people that want to learn to program, but I am now wondering if it would be better to try to find some kind of existing group and/or website where we can meet and discuss supporting each other with answers to programming questions and encouragement to finish projects.  I started gathering information from people on the MorphZone.org site, but want to include programmers and programming students from all sides of the Amiga community, not just MorphOS users.

So, if anyone knows of a good site for programmers and people that want to become programmers interested in AmigaOS3.x, MorphOS2.x, AmigaOS4.x and AROS, please let me know.  Anyone that has the same interest as myself in promoting new programming projects, supporting existing and potential new programmers, please contact me via email, my address is in my profile here on A.org.

Now that we have "more" and "faster" hardware to run all of the OSes I have mentioned above, with the possibility of more yet to come in the months ahead, it is even more important that we create and/or port new apps and games to our favorite OS of choice.

I have no grand delusions of a "comeback" that can compete with Windows, MacOSX, or even Linux, but we can stem the tide of losing more former Amiga users every day and possibly get some that have left to consider returning, so we can keep a community that is at least sefl sustaining and will survive another 25 years.

Edit: I don't know how I missed Cammy's post regarding using Power2People site for bounties which include all different Amiga-Like OSes.  I'll head over there now and see what that site is like these days and if programmers for MorphOS2.x, AmigaOS3.x & 4.x and AROS are all welcome there.
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Re: Bounties for Games?
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2010, 07:25:03 AM »
That's the spirit!
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Re: Bounties for Games?
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2010, 12:18:23 PM »
I'd like to see an AMiGA version of Throw In, a PC 3D conversion of the well known KickOff ;-)
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