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Re: Has CommodoreUSA shipped anything?
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2010, 04:18:05 PM »
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Are CommodoreUSA just being used by Scamiga or are they a part of this conspiracy to defraud potential purchasers of whatever assets Amiga Inc have left. (I can't think of many!).

Besides increasing the perceived value of the assets, there is one additional thing that the "Scamiga" people might have in mind: as their trademarks are being cancelled one after the other, they desperately need to show that they are using them. But, as this thread accurately says in the title, Commodore USA is pure vaporware so far, and that doesn't count much, does it?
 
To recap:
 
- Amiga Delaware has no patents (because they expired, and never even left Gateway)
- Amiga Delaware has no copyrights (because what the German notary public used to transfer the copyrights was a trademark/patent contract, not a copyright contract)
- If challenged, Amiga Delaware has no trademarks (because it failed to use them and to defend them)
- Amiga Washington and Amiga Delaware have lots of creditors, overdue taxes and court judgements, I would say for at least half a million dollars (from public sources), maybe more
- Amiga Delaware has (unless challenged by some of the Amiga Washington creditors/partners/employees, because it changed from the Washington company to the Delaware company defrauding the creditors of the Washington company) an interesting Spanish (and Portuguese) domain name: amiga.com
 
But is the amiga.com domain name worth more than the debts?
 
Am I missing something?
 

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Re: Has CommodoreUSA shipped anything?
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2010, 04:22:33 PM »
The prestige of owning the Amiga name cannot be valued in simple dollars and cents!
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Re: Has CommodoreUSA shipped anything?
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2010, 05:10:09 PM »
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So are the selling access to whatever IP is related to the Amiga? Is WB roms and OS included in this sale?

IF it is then this could be valued for a TV game type product as the purchaser would then own the roms. Question is how much they want. If its a few tens of thousands of dollars then it is in line with what one would pay for access to a major movie license (sometimes this goes into the millions or even hundreds of millions).


The news release indicated that Amiga Inc. wants to keep the OS, but sell the trade name, as ludicrous as that may sound.
 

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Re: Has CommodoreUSA shipped anything?
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2010, 05:16:13 PM »
It would be interesting to find out what the deal is between Barry's Furniture Co. and Amiga Inc, surely they would have to disclose the details of the deal to someone who wanted to buy the company....
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Re: Has CommodoreUSA shipped anything?
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2010, 05:20:31 PM »
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It would be interesting to find out what the deal is between Barry's Furniture Co. and Amiga Inc, surely they would have to disclose the details of the deal to someone who wanted to buy the company....


I don't think there is a deal, since they probably have realized that they are in violation of the settlement with Hyperion.  Rather, I suspect that McEwen is going to sell the trade name to Barry outright for some price to circumvent the legal problem, UNLESS he can get more by selling it to someone else -- hence the notice of the attempted sale at this point in time.
 

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Re: Has CommodoreUSA shipped anything?
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2010, 09:09:54 PM »
So......

Their 'shop' has been up for several months.

and no-one knows anyone who bought anything from CommodoreUSA.

I think that answers my question.
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Re: Has CommodoreUSA shipped anything?
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2010, 11:44:39 PM »
@orb85750

They aren't producing an OS so they aren't in violation of their agreement with Hyperion.  A lot of us spotted the hole when the settlement was posted.  Amiga Inc can produce computers but only with someone else's OS, they can't produce their own....
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Re: Has CommodoreUSA shipped anything?
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2010, 01:11:40 AM »
Bullsh*t has been shipping for several weeks.

:)
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Re: Has CommodoreUSA shipped anything?
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2010, 02:04:04 AM »
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@orb85750

They aren't producing an OS so they aren't in violation of their agreement with Hyperion.  A lot of us spotted the hole when the settlement was posted.  Amiga Inc can produce computers but only with someone else's OS, they can't produce their own....

Did I not read that Hyperion has filed suit?

EDIT: To get AROS to work fully with the C-USA hardware, are they not going to need to do some work?  Is that work not under the umbrella of "OS production/development?"  (I don't know.)
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Re: Has CommodoreUSA shipped anything?
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2010, 02:26:26 AM »
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Bullsh*t has been shipping for several weeks.

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Re: Has CommodoreUSA shipped anything?
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2010, 03:42:01 AM »
Well, the site claims the Phoenix is available now, and this video suggests that it's not a hoax:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzsmiuEYUQY (Warning: music is loud; don't play at work.)

I suspect this guy "AussieAmigan" is BigBentheAussie on AmigaWorld.net who is the CTO for Commodore USA.

Only time will tell what it all means.
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Re: Has CommodoreUSA shipped anything?
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2010, 03:56:52 AM »
Its just the cybernet zpc, which you can get 35-40% cheaper than from these idiots direct from cybernet
http://www.cybernetman.com/en/products/zerofootprintpc/zpc-gx31.cfm
 
You won't get a commodore sticker slapped on it.
 
Otherwise the video shows a grub boot menu that they put a commodore jpg in...with ubuntu, windows and aros installed, something anyone can do on any pc. A chief technical officer thats a fancy title now for someone who slaps a sticker on an existing computer and installs software?
 
 
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Re: Has CommodoreUSA shipped anything?
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2010, 04:07:27 AM »
This Commodore USA... I'm betting they are only interested in the Small form factor of the all in one keyboard design.
 

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Re: Has CommodoreUSA shipped anything?
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2010, 05:03:39 AM »
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The prestige of owning the Amiga name cannot be valued in simple dollars and cents!

Off Topic: Hey tone007, that is a nice new avatar and member title you have there!
How are you helping the Amiga community? :)
 

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Re: Has CommodoreUSA shipped anything?
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2010, 05:32:13 AM »
Well, they could start with t-shirts and an included coupon good for $X off their first shipping produce.
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: Has CommodoreUSA shipped anything?
« Reply #29 from previous page: November 05, 2010, 06:51:11 AM »
Well they have already shipped something:

They shipped an apology letter to Thom Holwerda of OSnews.com :)