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Offline SamuraiCrow

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Re: PPC accelerator poll
« Reply #44 from previous page: November 07, 2010, 12:04:20 AM »
Quote from: Cammy;589191
I'd rather it if someone brought out an Amiga-style keyboard wedge case that fits a Mini-ITX motherboard and stick in a Sam440 to run OS4, or an iMica to run Aros.

Since Aros is making its way to 68k Amigas we're going to have a major OS update soon, meaning there's even less reason to upgrade to PPC just to use a newer OS on our classics.

Even if we got a new PPC accelerator, the Sam still has USB, RTG and 16bit audio, fast ethernet and a whole bunch of other features that would be slower on a PPC-powered classic Amiga.


I agree with this.  There is no point in putting a MiniMig and PPC on the same accelerator since you'd just be using a few CIA chips in the host motherboard.

Implementing CIA chips in the FPGA softcore would be better because then you could leave the old hardware behind.  You'd only need a Kickstart 3.1 ROM image to run the new system under AmigaOS 3.x and if you really NEED PPC compatibility, give it a Sonnet Crescendo G4 accelerator in a PCI slot.

The only point I'd disagree upon is that AROS will be a major upgrade for 68k.  AfaOS already backported most of the features of AROS to AmigaOS 3.9 a long time ago.  A few features of 3.9 need to be implemented in AROS before I consider it useful on 68k:  bit-planar support for AGA or ECS would be chief among them.  Otherwise you'll still be forced to use a graphics card on all AROS apps the same way as AfaOS does now.  I think that will come eventually though.
 

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Re: PPC accelerator poll
« Reply #45 on: November 07, 2010, 12:10:37 AM »
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PPC is dead.
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I'm sure Sony, Microsoft, IBM, and Freescale would
all appreciate an email, so they can adjust their paltry business plans accordingly.:roflmao:
 

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Re: PPC accelerator poll
« Reply #46 on: November 07, 2010, 12:23:56 AM »
Don't forget Nintendo who have been using PPC since the GameCube and now the Wii.
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Re: PPC accelerator poll
« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2010, 01:10:44 AM »
In regards to the poll Im not going to bother to vote, but I do have some thoughts, which I thought Id share with y'all.
Firstly, no I wouldnt buy a new ppc card for classics, as it'd more than likely be too slow to add much in the way of modern functionality. The classic itself would be an additional bottleneck to something that already would be very humble (in terms of modern computing). If a Sam440 struggles to even play dvds without dropping frames then what chance does something that'll be most likely slower have. I would however buy a new accelerator that aleviated the need for cpu resources, like an accelerator with onboard rtg + video decoder hardware.

I only glanced over the thread, but I noticed something about %-ages of members vs people voting and so on. One thing to bare in mind here is that the number of active people is significantly lower than the amount of actual members. Remember that Amigaworld doesnt close accounts, so there's probably a not small portion of members who dont actually use the site. I actually asked to have my account removed almost a year ago from amigaworld.net and they refused me, and I know Im far from the only one.
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: PPC accelerator poll
« Reply #48 on: November 07, 2010, 01:40:10 AM »
Quote from: fishy_fiz;590011
I only glanced over the thread, but I noticed something about %-ages of members vs people voting and so on. One thing to bare in mind here is that the number of active people is significantly lower than the amount of actual members. Remember that Amigaworld doesnt close accounts, so there's probably a not small portion of members who dont actually use the site. I actually asked to have my account removed almost a year ago from amigaworld.net and they refused me, and I know Im far from the only one.


And still having a membership allows you to actually get the facts you are alluding to. Otherwise, you can not access the xoops members pages.

http://amigaworld.net/modules/xoopsmembers/

Try "Last login is less than X days ago" and enter "365".
1950 "members found" vs 4604 "members" shows on front page.
Rather open and honest, no?

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Re: PPC accelerator poll
« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2010, 01:45:36 AM »
Why insist on playing DVDs on an unsuited computer when you can buy a perfectly capable DVD player for close to nothing? Sometimes I get the feeling that video playback is the only thing amiga (and morphos) users care about, and for some weird reason they insist on doing it the worst way possible - on their puny, barely capable systems.
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A3000/060CSPPC+CVPPC/128MB + 256MB BigRAM/Deneb USB
A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

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Re: PPC accelerator poll
« Reply #50 on: November 07, 2010, 01:47:04 AM »
What would be a reasonable price be for a new PPC board, in your opinion?  Would one need to buy a RTG graphics card too in order to use OS4.1?
 

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Re: PPC accelerator poll
« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2010, 02:03:51 AM »
@orb85750
About the same price as that of a Wii and some superglue :)
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A3000/060CSPPC+CVPPC/128MB + 256MB BigRAM/Deneb USB
A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS