PPC accelerator poll

[sundown]

There's a new PPC accelerator poll on AW, front page, right side. Those of you that are interested, could you please vote if you're interested.

I'm not involved in this h/w project, so please don't ask me any questions, I'm just the messenger. Err..., wait, they shoot messengers don't they? :-D

[Heiroglyph]

Never having owned a PPC or OS4, the third option confuses me.

Doesn't OS4.1 run 68k applications?

Thanks

[Franko]

I was going to vote yes but that would mean logging in and that site's just too OS4.x biased to me (if I logged in I might upset a few of the nerds over there...

[Gulliver]

I was going to vote yes but that would mean logging in and that site's just too OS4.x biased to me (if I logged in I might upset a few of the nerds over there...

+1

[Heiroglyph]

Forget that question, they meant for running 3.x itself, not for running 3.x APPS in 4.1.

I totally missed that distinction.

Unless it's dirt cheap (ha!) I'm not really interested in PPC though.

If I had a log-in there I would vote no.

[utri007]

Never having owned a PPC or OS4, the third option confuses me.

Doesn't OS4.1 run 68k applications?

Thanks

That is probably because  a1200 with phase5 accelerator can run "not so system friendly programs". With only PPC cpu a1200 can only run system friendly programs, because accelerators disables 68k cpu

[Franko]

That is probably because  a1200 with phase5 accelerator can run "not so system friendly programs". With only PPC cpu a1200 can only run system friendly programs, because accelerators disables 68k cpu

I use a Blizzard060/PPC on my Amiga everyday and it certainly doesn't disable the 68k (otherwise I'd never even be able to boot up). Where'd you get that idea from... :confused:

[Buzzfuzz]

If a new PPC accelerator were to be developed for the A1200/A4000, capable of running OS4.1, would you buy it, assuming reasonable price?

Reasonable price, yeah that is a bit vague, if the card would have a 060 and a 700 Mhz PPC or something for around 200-250 euro's, yeah.
But even existing PPC's will run 4.1, maybe not superfast, but it will run.
 
Why not make a poll here, I'm not going to create a login for that site, nor a1k.org

[Gulliver]

The processor that gets disabled on an ordinary accelerated system, is only the one that comes as default with the Amiga, the one that you cannot manually unplug by disconecting a card.

Blizzard PPC accelerator boards come with two processors on board, a 68k (either a 040 or a 060) and a ppc, they continue to run both at the same time, only the host Amiga default one gets disabled.

[TheGoose]

PPC is dead.
:hammer:

[fitzsteve]

The processor that gets disabled on an ordinary accelerated system, is only the one that comes as default with the Amiga, the one that you cannot manually unplug by disconecting a card.

Blizzard PPC accelerator boards come with two processors on board, a 68k (either a 040 or a 060) and a ppc, they continue to run both at the same time, only the host Amiga default one gets disabled.

I think the confusion is with OS4 Classic the 68k is disabled and OS4 runs from the PPC only.  

As Gulliver says in normal OS3.x both CPU's are active and you can run 68k apps/games and WarpOS/PowerUP apps/games

Steve.

[number6]

@thread

2 quick things:

the background leading to the creation of the poll

The poll is a xoops poll (members only), as opposed to a normal thread poll where anyone can vote. It was designed that way as an information gathering instrument.

If one issue is the hesistancy to become a member solely for the purpose of registering a vote, I truly understand.
Maybe you could implement something similar here on amiga.org to help gather some responses.

#6

[Franko]

@thread

2 quick things:

the background leading to the creation of the poll

The poll is a xoops poll (members only), as opposed to a normal thread poll where anyone can vote. It was designed that way as an information gathering instrument.

If one issue is the hesistancy to become a member solely for the purpose of registering a vote, I truly understand.
Maybe you could implement something similar here on amiga.org to help gather some responses.

#6

When it first came out I bought Classic OS4.0 to run on my Blizzard060/PPC and can only say what a total waste of money it was, there was no mention that you needed an RTG GFX card to make it usable and then Hyperion quickly dropped all support for it after only one update. :madashell:

This poll which is clearly linked to the release of Classic OS4.1 is kinda pointless in my opinion. I mean how many folk are going to be daft enough like me to pay nearly 500 quid on ebay to buy a BPPC, then try and buy a BVision (still haven't found one) to make Classic OS4.x any way at all useable. Thats assuming of course if you can find a BPPC or Bvision for sale in the first place.

I know Amigakit sell the Mediator boards, but in a thread I placed a few days ago asking if anyone uses the Mediator and what it could do, not a dicky bird...

Point is how many Amiga users are going to buy OS4.1 when it's going to cost them a small fortune to upgrade their Amigas just to run an OS that by past experience shows that you'll be left at the whim of Hyperion when they suddenly decide to drop support for it, not many I guess...

So what's the point in the poll, do you have some inside information about a new PPC board someone is planning for the Amiga, or is this just some more wishful thinking (and yes I did read the thread...)

(just noticed the thread were one lucky mug can bid on a BPPC , won't be me this time... but at least the Amiga community will have one more PPC user soon, even if he/she is a little poorer... )

[number6]

@Franko

I'm not managing the poll either. I just noticed that it had been pointed to from here, and thought I should clarify what I knew to be the reason for its existance.
At this point, I realize my 2nd point was made in haste, and should be disregarded.
The very reason for the xoops poll was to obtain unique serious responses.
Fostering a poll with the same entries on amiga.org would merely result in duplication, which the poll creator surely does not want.

Is there an accelerator?
Let's just say that the facts to date are that dealers would like that as a product option.

#6

[Cammy]

I'd rather it if someone brought out an Amiga-style keyboard wedge case that fits a Mini-ITX motherboard and stick in a Sam440 to run OS4, or an iMica to run Aros.

Since Aros is making its way to 68k Amigas we're going to have a major OS update soon, meaning there's even less reason to upgrade to PPC just to use a newer OS on our classics.

Even if we got a new PPC accelerator, the Sam still has USB, RTG and 16bit audio, fast ethernet and a whole bunch of other features that would be slower on a PPC-powered classic Amiga.