The Amiga Is A Toy - By Local Government Official...

[tone007]

I think you have to be drunk to speak Welsh.

Cwmhrdyceirw!

[Amiga_Nut]

Oh wow, you sure did tell off 21 years ago.  Man I bet 1989 is feelin' the burn from that one.

HEAR THAT, PAST?  YOU SUCK!

DOS Wanker? Mac Wanker or Nintendo loser in the 90s/80s then? LOL

[jj]

@ kolla
Tricky subject the old Shetland (hjaltland) is, let's just say we... erm borrowed them for a wee while and changed the name a wee bit and are taking good care of them...
 
@ Tone007
Orkney is quite simply the land where the best mature Chedder Cheese in the world come from... (they're allowed to roam free on that windswept little place until they reach full maturity, when they are mercilessly culled, wrapped in cellophane and sent off to the shops for me to buy and eat as cheese on toast...)
 
@ mikrucio
Are you a Taxman, hmm you sound suspiciously like a Taxman, Burn him, Burn the unbeliever I say... ( or failing that just gently prod him with a long pointy stick...)
 
@ JJ
Not even when drunk can either of BBC Albas two viewers understand what is being said, still it's one more viewer than S4C has... :biglaugh:
 
@ All Across The Pond In The Good Ole U, S of A
C'mon, own up which of you voted for the Tea Party... :confused:

:lol:
 
S4C has a pretty decent amout of viewers considering the small population of wales of about 3.9M
 
The first time I put BBC Alba on I thought, What they on about, they must be pished.
 
I love the scots me.  My gran is from edinburgh so I am part scot anyway.  Must be the part of me that makes me ddrink every day  No wait there thats the celt in me

[B00tDisk]

DOS Wanker? Mac Wanker or Nintendo loser in the 90s/80s then? LOL

Actually, monkey boy, I owned an A500 from '88 to '92, and an A1200 from '92 to '95.  I had a C128 prior to the 500, a C128 before that, a 64, and a VIC-20 to start it all off.  The only consoles I've owned: Atari 2600, Playstation, and a Wii the wife got at an office raffle.

I occasionally fire up WinUAE (the last time I played Quake 1 was under WinUAE - ran about 60fps in 800x600 with WinUAEgfx driver).

I'm just not terminally addicted to railing at the past for a future that will never be.

[PanterHZ]

I can only say that the funeral I was at on Monday, there were a few kilt wearers in attendance and as it was such a windy day some of the sights were not very pleasant to behold when the wind blew...

I closed my eyes and tried to imagine this scenario for a moment........ oh the horror!!!

@ PanterHZ & Franko

pfffft -20 you say...we Canadians play shinny hockey outside on ponds in our t-shirts when it's that warm outside:afro:

Well, I realize that it can be just a bit cold in Canada as well
But take a look here what can happen with some hot water and -30 here in Norway: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSSZC7KR00o&feature=related

I think you confused the seasons. I've experienced  -30 for several weeks straight near Oslo. That was starting to feel a  bit nippy. When it was -20 I used to sleep with my window open.

Yes but now you are talking about the lowest peaks, when I said -20 I meant the average temperature that was up in the north.
It must be said that every year it's the same, it snows in Oslo which in turn leads to complete chaos in the traffic, it's like you people suddenly realize too late that it's winter now, and maybe it will snow as well. Funny to watch every time :roflmao:
Personally I live on the west coast of Norway, and it rarely goes below -20 here. If it did, we will simply freeze to death.

Well, there's probably a grain of truth in there alright  You will find a good number are just fiercely proud of their country  and that's the end of it... And mix that with the types who go out to  get totally drunk and look for a fight, and you have the guys you met  there. If you'd bought him a drink you'd probably be best friends with  him in the end

Yes I realize that the word "hate" in this context should be taken with a pinch of salt, and I may add that what you mention here is the same between us norwegians and swedes as well
BTW. I did meet the same guys later that evening, and they were both in a good mood then.

[Franko]

@ PanterHZ

Can't wait till January to try out that in the video...

By the way I almost understood what they were saying, sounded like a couple of drunken Scotsmen to me...

[vidarh]

It must be said that every year it's the same, it snows in Oslo which in turn leads to complete chaos in the traffic, it's like you people suddenly realize too late that it's winter now, and maybe it will snow as well. Funny to watch every time :roflmao:

I live in London now, and if you think what happpens in Oslo is chaos, you should see what happened last winter when it snowed in London. Whole town practically stopped for 2-3 days. People didn't dare to drive, or drove so slow I could overtake them on foot. Over maybe 20-30 cm of snow.

And of course tons of trains were cancelled, because, you know, a train couldn't possibly handle a tiny bit of snow on the tracks.

[ElPolloDiabl]

did some things better than a Megadrive (shit twangy music) pfff (Lotus II is impossible on the SNES) or PC (shit OS that broke at the mere though of multimedia in 1985-1993) and Mac (overpriced single tasking bollox)
/Nintendopes

I second that. The mac looked like it was for simpletons and PC multimedia games were half baked.

[psxphill]

If it's packing a motorola 68040 that's an ex supercomputer cpu. In the old days there were no petaflops, but there were Crays Supercomputers with several 68040s in them.

I've never heard of Cray using 68040's, they'd be far too slow. NCR did some unix boxes with them, but they were outclassed by intel pretty quickly.

[vidarh]

I've never heard of Cray using 68040's, they'd be far too slow. NCR did some unix boxes with them, but they were outclassed by intel pretty quickly.

SGI and Sun and a bunch of others did 68k based Unix boxes too. My university still had a bunch of Sun boxes with 68020's in them in '94, though at point they were being slowly replaced by MIPS powered SGI's.

Also never heard Cray mentioned as a user. It's not that the CPU would be too slow per se for normal instructions,  but that it's not a vector unit - the entire point of at least Cray's early machines was that they offered extremely wide vector units. As far as I know, Cray only used their own designed CPU's until 1993 when they released a series based on the DEC Alpha.

It's not impossible they might have used 68k CPU's in "support" functions (though I have no idea if they did) such as terminals/operator consoles or to control peripherals or stuff like that (just like some Amiga models had a 6502 derivative on the keyboard, and some Amiga SCSI cards had a Z80 on them...), but certainly not as the main CPU.

[ElPolloDiabl]

I've never heard of Cray using 68040's, they'd be far too slow. NCR did some unix boxes with them, but they were outclassed by intel pretty quickly.

I saw one on a documentary. It had a sign on it, "Cray supercomputer." Next line said, "68040"

Also I heard of a supercomputer - not sure which one using about 8 or 12 68040s, when the 68040 was brand new.

[vidarh]

I saw one on a documentary. It had a sign on it, "Cray supercomputer." Next line said, "68040"

Unlikely to have referred to the main CPUs. When the 68040 was launched in 1990, Cray just released an "entry level" super computer at $2.2 million - their cheapest model at that point with one or two 166MHz custom CPU's with lots of vector math support.

However I think I might've found a clue. The Cray EL-90 used 68k series CPU's to control their I/O subsystem and serial port. So there might've been 68040's in some models as glorified embedded microcontrollers instead of custom chips. The Cray's were/are expensive enough that throwing a 68040 or ten in there to offload tasks like that off the main CPUs wouldn't affect the price much.

Also I heard of a supercomputer - not sure which one using about 8 or 12 68040s, when the 68040 was brand new.

There's a failed supercomputer company called Myrias that did actually launch a supercomputer called the SPS-3 that had 48 x 68040's in September 1990. It might've competed favorably with the very smallest (1 or 2 CPU) Cray model for vector maths, and likely beaten it for non-vector stuff (Cray's were at the time geared pretty much 100% towards vector math)

[cecilia]

You know whats really funny..?

That fact that he was right..

And I don't care how much flame you guys bring in the next replies.
but it IS A TOY because my iphone has more power than your Amiga 1200.
and if my iphone is a toy which it is, how can the Amiga not be.

So you can try to hold on to the niche of it all for as long as you want.
In reality though, which is where the inspector was.

They ARE just a toy. a very expensive toy...

And whatever they "could" do 20 years ago they "can't" do now.

there's hole in your "logic".
The computers NASA used to get people to the Moon don't have the power of the laptop I'm typing this post on. and YET, they worked well enough for this VERY important - possibly the most important - event in human history.

you can call any device a 'toy' but the bottom line is that it's the person(s) using that device that really get the most out of it.

da Vinci using a pencil is not the same as all of us reading here using that same pencil. Everyone using the Amiga just as a toy is simply proving their lack of imagination and talent. It's wasted on them.

[psxphill]

da Vinci using a pencil is not the same as all of us reading here using that same pencil. Everyone using the Amiga just as a toy is simply proving their lack of imagination and talent. It's wasted on them.

There is an even bigger hole in your logic. If you have imagination and talent, why would you limit yourself by sticking with twenty year old technology?
 
NASA wouldn't pick Amiga today. The total cost of ownership is too high.

[kedawa]

Yeah, I'm sure buying a few $20 computers from yard sales would cripple their budget.

[Fats]

NASA wouldn't pick Amiga today. The total cost of ownership is too high.

Why do you think m68k CPUs are still being sold ? If not for the NASAs of the world and their contractual obligations, Freescale would have long stopped selling these CPUs.

greets,
Staf.