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Outsider looking in
« on: October 22, 2010, 10:11:59 PM »
Hi Everyone,

Just picked my Amiga up out of a box after a very long time away and it is really interesting reviewing lots of different posts, and understanding a little about the scene as it is now.

It is really interesting - you have the guys who have stuck with the Amiga throughout and people like myself who have just popped back with the Classic Amiga etc. after time away.

In short, I think it is a fantastic community and a credit to everyone involved who has helped keep the machine alive.Very very well done!!!!!!! :)

I don't really have much of a right to poke my nose into how and where the community is going, but what I would say in terms of future development from an outsider looking in - stick together everyone and pool your resources rather than split of into individual micro communities (with reference to the different OS's people are into). I also wouldn't worry too much about needing to have or be a part of the cutting edge in terms of processors etc. I think the PPC route will keep the community going for years - yes it might be expensive and now relatively slow, but! the code these processors will be running on will be highly optimised to the Amiga platform which is light and efficient anyway, and will produce great results for years I believe. Just look how far the community has taken the 030-060 processor which in modern terms is a mini metro compared with modern F1 equivalent processors etc. (no disrespect intended - I love the 030-060s). Reading the other post on processors, I wouldn't go down the x86 route - I think the modern Amiga would loose the magic - it would have the heart of a PC :(

For me the Amiga community is all about creativity and squeezing the most out of what could be considered very little - it's developers are highly efficient and waste very little - compared with software produced for the pc which renders most machines as land fill material after 4-5 years..

I would also try really hard, and support the guys producing hardware and software for the Amiga - that way, what ever happens in modern commercial PC world has little effect if the Amiga community is still readily being updated with new bits and pieces to keep everyone interested. Not to say that people are not, but you know what I mean - besides I love the madness of being able to buy brand new hardware for my 17 year old Amiga 600 - how cool is that!?!?! :) On my shopping list for the end of the month is a Indivision flicker fixer card and a 1meg upgrade. I am also hoping Individual computers bring out the 630 they are promising!

I hope no one takes offence to this post - just wanted to air my views - and if you do, what does a newby know anyway?!?! :)

Adrian
 

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Re: Outsider looking in
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2010, 10:15:44 PM »
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It is really interesting - you have the guys who have stuck with the Amiga throughout and people like myself who have just popped back with the Classic Amiga etc. after time away.


..and then there's a few people like me who didn't see an Amiga until 2007!  I had to cram the last 20-some odd years into 3!  Good thing I get obsessed easily.
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Re: Outsider looking in
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2010, 10:43:12 PM »
well said agree 100 %
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Re: Outsider looking in
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2010, 11:48:20 PM »
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..and then there's a few people like me who didn't see an Amiga until 2007!  I had to cram the last 20-some odd years into 3!  Good thing I get obsessed easily.
2000 for me, but yeah. I was kind of awed, because it turned out that the Amiga was exactly the computer I had hoped the Mac would be when we got a Mac II in 1992 :/
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Re: Outsider looking in
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2010, 02:44:11 AM »
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Re: Outsider looking in
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2010, 05:32:23 AM »
I had never seen an Amiga  untill a few months ago 2010 now i have two Amiga 1200,s blasting out Beatle tunes everyday, nice post  Adrian . best wishes Brian
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Re: Outsider looking in
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2010, 07:34:42 AM »
@ ad-rs1600i

Very well said sir... :)

First off, newbie or not having chosen to resurrect your Amiga you ARE a part of the Amiga community and entitled to air your views on the subject... :)

Secondly, your post to me reflects the unique and wonderful attitude of the Amiga community that I always remember right from the start of it all back in 86... :)

Thirdly, with such a great attitude as you have, don't stray too far again this time... ;)
 

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Re: Outsider looking in
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2010, 09:05:37 AM »
Blooming heck! :) I wasn't sure what to expect when I logged back onto this post - half of me thought I might get a maybe well deserved slap! - thanks :)

I am genuinely totally enthused, it is such an interesting and vibrant place to be! I am currently having my A600's case cleaned, but I am really looking forward to getting it back :) I can also imagine myself buying a A2000 in due course as i always wanted one as a kid.

Before I push my luck too far(!) i woke up thinking to galvanise the community between people who are interested in the retro stuff and the forward facing guys, what the community need's is a modern A1200(&A4000) trapdoor accelerator with a late power PC chip, maybe around 512mb-1gig of ram and a OS4 compatible GFX card - a modern Blizzard PPc setup effectively. I think the guys who produce the X1000 (?) would do well doing this, because I believe the retro Amiga guys would be strong on the uptake and ultimately you would get new momentum behind OS4 as a result - which would pave the way, i.e. make it financially viable for maybe some commercial software houses to get involved. From what I understand, to be thoroughly happy, most people would be content with a good Firefox port!! :)

I am not sure what it is, but I absolutely love the ingenuity that has gone into classic Amiga to make it last so long - I think there is a market there still for parts reviewing the price of second hand accelerator cards for the Amiga platform especially the PPc stuff.

I'll get off my soap box now :)

Sorry gang, you may have tons of silly questions from me over the next fews years because as I kid, as technical as I got with my Amiga was chucking disks in....! he he

Adrian

PS - sorry I missed the new guys, who have just discovered the Amiga :) Well done as well! I was too much of a sheep when I was very young to pick out something totally different :)