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Re: What are these small and big "click" sounds in my hd??
« Reply #29 from previous page: December 05, 2003, 08:02:28 PM »
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Re: What are these small and big "click" sounds in my hd??
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2003, 08:08:50 PM »
Should I publicly confess that I misread the "cl" in the Subject as a "d"?




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Re: What are these small and big "click" sounds in my hd??
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2003, 09:28:05 PM »
The drive in my AmigaOne was a Western Digital and starting making terrible noises after about a month. Fortunately there was nothing but a base Debian install on it and I could still get it replaced by the manufacturer.

In the past few days I've read some other WD horror stories around the web. I've added them to my personal blacklist. ;-)
 

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Re: What are these small and big "click" sounds in my hd??
« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2003, 09:34:59 PM »
@ Seehund

That would make the thread a bit more nontrivial, huh? *
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Re: What are these small and big "click" sounds in my hd??
« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2003, 11:10:59 PM »
EEeehhh......hard drive filled with liquid???

I've never heard of that before.

I rather stick with Seagate than anything else.
Western Digital I don't have any problems except the fact that it's one of my several drives I put them on sleep mode when not being used in 15mins.   :-)   The Seagate which I have for a few years now are very relialable.
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Re: What are these small and big "click" sounds in my hd??
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2003, 11:16:13 PM »
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uh-oh! Another Maxtor Hard Drive case.

my pc is on for about 8 to 10 hours a day for a year and it is still fine.  :-)


mine is usually on for 15-17 hours... :-)
 

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Re: What are these small and big "click" sounds in my hd??
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2003, 03:56:52 AM »
They reckon that you should LLF your drives every 3-4 months so they "recalibrate" themselves. As mentioned earlier in this topic, it's due to lost calibration (constant expanding and contracting does that to moving parts), and the clicking and whirring is the drive trying to align itself (seek) "on the fly" so to speak. Yea, a big hissy fit. :)

As for deathstars, their problem was found to be lubricant would fly up onto the heads. Their new firmware makes it so there is a random movement of the heads if it's been sitting idle for a while. But, I've had to replace one of my deathstars last year. :(

And the fluid in the drive is the fluid bearing for the poster that asked about that. :)
 

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Re: What are these small and big "click" sounds in my hd??
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2003, 05:22:39 AM »
Conner lasts, but I gather they got bought out? I have an old 420MB Conner, still works, how stable are 10,000 RPM drives and FlashROM drives, I'm thinking of buying a nice harddrive for my 2000. Also, I maybe? shouldn't be looking at 10,000 cause of the fact my HD controller tis Z2 and is limtied to 3.28Meg/Sec or some such similiar IIRC...

Anyhow... I've yet to get a bad HD, I'm really lucky with some stuff I guess, but even the 65MB SCSI2 drive that came with my Amiga 2000 (I think Quantum something) still works. Although the 1GB Scsi2 drive I have in there now has a bunch of bad blocks (confined to one partition though oddly enough, I think it ran out of space to store the bad blocks, and hdtoolbox hates the SCSI controller I'm replacing)
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Re: What are these small and big "click" sounds in my hd??
« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2003, 06:28:06 AM »
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They reckon that you should LLF your drives every 3-4 months (...)


Low Lewel Format?? You gotta be kiddin, right?? :-?
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Re: What are these small and big "click" sounds in my hd??
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2003, 09:03:49 AM »
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They reckon that you should LLF your drives every 3-4 months (...)


Low Lewel Format?? You gotta be kiddin, right?? :-?


Nope. Serious.

If only I could remember where I read it. But when I read it, it made perfect sense on why to do that. But who could really be bothered to do a LLF 4 times a year? :) But with alignment issues being the big killer and drives with only 1 year warranties now, I think I might make the time to make them last longer.

Of course you use the software provided by your HDD manufacturer as it has the proper parameters in it for those operations. :)
 

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Re: What are these small and big "click" sounds in my hd??
« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2003, 12:51:00 PM »
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by DanDude on 2003/12/6 0:10:59

EEeehhh......hard drive filled with liquid???

I've never heard of that before.

Hi DanDude

yes, a really interesting thing.

The Maxtor DiamondMax Plus-9 series  uses those "fluid dynamic bearing motors" technology.

Is there someone who knows in deep those interesting technology? which kind of fluid?

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Re: What are these small and big "click" sounds in my hd??
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2003, 01:01:46 PM »
I've used both maxtor and samsung for many years now... Never had any bad stuff happening...
 

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Re: What are these small and big "click" sounds in my hd??
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2003, 01:11:28 PM »
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by LP on 2003/12/6 14:01:46

I've used both maxtor and samsung for many years now... Never had any bad stuff happening...

the same here, plus some Seagate but all that, doesn't make Maxtor, Samsung and Seagate the BEST or the WORSE hd in the world.

Some of them works perfectly, others one not. :-)

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Re: What are these small and big "click" sounds in my hd??
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2003, 02:59:00 PM »
If someone does consider a Hard Drive to be useless then LOW LEVEL FORMAT should be the last roll of the dice. I heard it is not recommended and could ruin the whole HD.
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Re: What are these small and big "click" sounds in my hd??
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2003, 03:49:33 PM »
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the same here, plus some Seagate but all that, doesn't make Maxtor, Samsung and Seagate the BEST or the WORSE hd in the world.


True some of us have been ok with drives while others with the same drives have had lots of problems .Seagate are the ones i have not heard of anyone having real problems with and i have a seagate 80 gig in my amigaone. :-)
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Re: What are these small and big "click" sounds in my hd??
« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2003, 04:41:58 PM »
@ami500

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They reckon that you should LLF your drives every 3-4 months so they "recalibrate" themselves. As mentioned earlier in this topic, it's due to lost calibration (constant expanding and contracting does that to moving parts), and the clicking and whirring is the drive trying to align itself (seek) "on the fly" so to speak. Yea, a big hissy fit. :)

That is utter nonsense.

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Nope. Serious.

If only I could remember where I read it. But when I read it, it made perfect sense on why to do that. But who could really be bothered to do a LLF 4 times a year? :) But with alignment issues being the big killer and drives with only 1 year warranties now, I think I might make the time to make them last longer.

That is total nonsense.

You can't low level format a modern hard drive anyway, it is done at the factory. The "low level format" you speak about is just writing the whole disk with zeros or given pattern. This does not recalibrate anything, and most certainly won't fix a dead drive.

See the previous thread about the "Low level format" for reference.