DENUB USB adding USB Classes

[TrickyT]

Hello all.  Recently got a DENUB USB card for my 4000 and love it.  However, for the life of me can't seem to figure out how to load USB classes in Trident.

Loaded all software from DENUB in recovery mode, then unpdated to Poseidon 4.4 and Trident 4.4.  Everything works great, have my CD-ROM, mouse, Flash cards.  

However, I have a USB NIC that came with the card (From Amigakit), one I see here works fine, but can't figure out how to load the USB class for it.  Everything in the documentation says load Trident, go to classes and hit dir scan or add.  Dir scan does nothing, clicking the file icon next to class library and picking asixeth.class then clicking add does nothing.  

Only three classes showing in the Trident 4.4 UI are hid.class, hub.call and massstorage.class.

I took an image of my drive to play with in WinUAE.  Loaded image, go into Trident, hit remove on HID.class (it goes away) and then save.  Opened up Trident and yes, it's gone from the classes list.  But I can't even add it back with either a dir scan or selecting the file name and hitting add.  No error or anything in the message window.

USB Network adaptor shows up in the devices as working, but shows no class file for it.  

What am I doing wrong?  How do I add the asixeth.class to the stack?  It's killing me, I have spent days reading forums and help files trying to figure this out.  I finally gave up and am reaching out for help.

TrickyT

[Matt_H]

I don't have Trident in front of me, but I think the thing you need to be dir-scanning is SYS:Classes/USB.

And if you have Poseidon in the FlashROM, you'll need to reflash it after you save Trident's settings in order to get the updated PsdStackLoader into the FlashROM.

[TrickyT]

Yup, that's the targeted directory.  SYS:Classes/USB, but the dir scan does nothing when I click it.

Shown here is the default view on classes.  

http://gallery.me.com/trickyt#100036/Trident1&bgcolor=black

When I click the file icon on the right of Class library, it shows the directory.

http://gallery.me.com/trickyt#100036/Trident2&bgcolor=black

Then, I'll select a file and click add, but nothing happens.

http://gallery.me.com/trickyt#100036/Trident3&bgcolor=black

Not sure what I am missing.  The buttons do nothing and nothing shows in the message log.  Can't even add HID.class back, which was there before I clicked remove and save.

[Thomas]

Why are your file names written in all upper case? I don't know if this can cause your problem, but it's not ok.

[mousehouse]

You could also use the Psd* tools in C: to display the attached devices and classes, they ive much more detail...

[Matt_H]

Why are your file names written in all upper case? I don't know if this can cause your problem, but it's not ok.

I agree - this is probably related to your problem. What filesystem are you using / did you use to bring the Poseidon install files over to the Amiga?

I think that device names are one of the few case-sensitive things on the Amiga. Poseidon probably doesn't recognize those files as being valid.

EDIT: If case sensitivity isn't the issue, you may have lost the correct permission bits on the files - please check what they're set to.

[TrickyT]

I agree - this is probably related to your problem. What filesystem are you using / did you use to bring the Poseidon install files over to the Amiga?

I think that device names are one of the few case-sensitive things on the Amiga. Poseidon probably doesn't recognize those files as being valid.

EDIT: If case sensitivity isn't the issue, you may have lost the correct permission bits on the files - please check what they're set to.

Holy crap..  You guys rock.  I never would have guess having the file names capitalized would have made any difference.  I ran the Poseidon install straight from the burned CD that came with my DENUB.  I renamed my HID.CLASS to hid.class and then opened Trident, it's back!!  Then renamed AXISETH.CLASS to axiseth.class and holy crap, it worked..

Thank you guys SO MUCH!!!!  :cool:

Nevermind about no class binding.  I had to undo some things I did while troubleshooting.  Looks like I had the disable class bindings on the device checked.  Almost there.

[TrickyT]

Holy crap..  You guys rock.  I never would have guess having the file names capitalized would have made any difference.  I ran the Poseidon install straight from the burned CD that came with my DENUB.  I renamed my HID.CLASS to hid.class and then opened Trident, it's back!!  Then renamed AXISETH.CLASS to axiseth.class and holy crap, it worked..

Thank you guys SO MUCH!!!!  :cool:

Nevermind about no class binding.  I had to undo some things I did while troubleshooting.  Looks like I had the disable class bindings on the device checked.  Almost there.

Can anyone confirm what class should be used for this card?  http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2797

I thought it was supposed to be axiseth.class, at least that's what I thought I read, but it doesn't bind that class to the NIC.  I added asixeth.class, dm9601eth.class, pegasus.class and etherwrap.class.  Only thing it wants to bind to is dm9601eth.class

Now in the devices tab, it shows, State - Running, Class - ? none, Bindings - dm9601eth.class.  

However the easynet nic setup doesn't show anything related to dm9601eth.class when trying to pick a driver.  It has asixeth but of course I can't select that as the class isn't setup for it.

[Matt_H]

@ TrickyT

Great! You might also consider reinstalling directly from the Poseidon archive, just in case there are other issues lurking around - check Devs:USBHardware for case issues, too.

The Deneb didn't ship with a CD, so it looks like either whoever made it (previous owner?) used an old ISO9660 standard which doesn't support case correctly, or you're still using the CDFilesystem that came with OS3.1 which also doesn't support case correctly.

EDIT:

For your next issue, if dm9601eth.class is what the device is binding to, it's the correct class. EasyNet might be hardcoded to a limited list of drivers that dm9601eth isn't a part of. Look around the EasyNet install files to see if there's a config file somewhere that shows valid drivers, and add the new one (check the Poseidon docs to see what the name should be). Talk to AmigaKit about it if that doesn't work.

The other option is to configure the system with a different driver and then change it by hand after it's installed. I've had to do this for Envoy and Roadshow when using USB Ethernet.

[TrickyT]

@ TrickyT

Great! You might also consider reinstalling directly from the Poseidon archive, just in case there are other issues lurking around - check Devs:USBHardware for case issues, too.

The Deneb didn't ship with a CD, so it looks like either whoever made it (previous owner?) used an old ISO9660 standard which doesn't support case correctly, or you're still using the CDFilesystem that came with OS3.1 which also doesn't support case correctly.

It came from AmigaNET, Software was 4.2 on the card, they provided 4.4 for update on CD.  But yes, they probably burned it wrong.  I'll try to reinstall with a downloaded full package.  Everything seems good except my class binding problem for the NIC now.  The dm9601eth.class doesn't seem to be working correctly, it keeps saying my link is down and to check the cable, but the cable is fine and works on my 1200's PCMCIA card.

Pretty sure this card used axiseth.class.  When I try force binding axiseth.class to the NIC, I get this.  Which the first message seems to tell me I that this is in fact the correct class for this.

Warning asixeth.class "This adapter uses the AX88172 chipset.:
Error     asixeth.class "Failed to initialize adapter!"
Error     poseidon.libraray "Forced device binding of USB Network Controller to asixeth.class failed"


I'll start with a re-install from the master bits of 4.4.

[TrickyT]

It came from AmigaNET, Software was 4.2 on the card, they provided 4.4 for update on CD.  But yes, they probably burned it wrong.  I'll try to reinstall with a downloaded full package.  Everything seems good except my class binding problem for the NIC now.  The dm9601eth.class doesn't seem to be working correctly, it keeps saying my link is down and to check the cable, but the cable is fine and works on my 1200's PCMCIA card.

Pretty sure this card used axiseth.class.  When I try force binding axiseth.class to the NIC, I get this.  Which the first message seems to tell me I that this is in fact the correct class for this.

Warning asixeth.class "This adapter uses the AX88172 chipset.:
Error     asixeth.class "Failed to initialize adapter!"
Error     poseidon.libraray "Forced device binding of USB Network Controller to asixeth.class failed"


I'll start with a re-install from the master bits of 4.4.

Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure..

So I just did a clean wipe and reload and installed 4.4 on top of an AmigaSys image with lastest 68040.library file.  All classes now show up from SYS:Classes/USB, yet it still is binding the NIC to dm9601eth.class.  Maybe that's correct?  However, I don't see a choice for that in the Easynet installer.

Anyone have this Blue NIC working?  What class am I supposed to have for it?  http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2797

I see mention of using it on the forum, but not what class went with it.  Want to make sure I have the binding correct, before attempting to get something to see it.

Thanks again for the help, this board rocks!!

[Brosol]

I have one those blue USB NIC: KY-RS9600
Mine works using dm9601eth.class (DM9601 chipset)

[TrickyT]

It came from AmigaNET, Software was 4.2 on the card, they provided 4.4 for update on CD.  But yes, they probably burned it wrong.  I'll try to reinstall with a downloaded full package.  Everything seems good except my class binding problem for the NIC now.  The dm9601eth.class doesn't seem to be working correctly, it keeps saying my link is down and to check the cable, but the cable is fine and works on my 1200's PCMCIA card.

Pretty sure this card used axiseth.class.  When I try force binding axiseth.class to the NIC, I get this.  Which the first message seems to tell me I that this is in fact the correct class for this.

Warning asixeth.class "This adapter uses the AX88172 chipset.:
Error     asixeth.class "Failed to initialize adapter!"
Error     poseidon.libraray "Forced device binding of USB Network Controller to asixeth.class failed"


I'll start with a re-install from the master bits of 4.4.

I have one those blue USB NIC: KY-RS9600
Mine works using dm9601eth.class

Ok, well that's a start. Looks like I am heading down the right path now at least.  What TCP stack are you using for it?  Any tips on getting that setup?

[Brosol]

It depends on your setup....I've played with Genesis & MiamiDX but my router works best with Genesis using static IP & gateway address.

[Darrin]

Ok, well that's a start. Looks like I am heading down the right path now at least.  What TCP stack are you using for it?  Any tips on getting that setup?

Here's an extract from a thread I started on here back in 2008.  Hope it helps:

Here's a little something to share with everybody, I've got my A4000D surfing the net using the Deneb USB card, OS3.9 and an off-the-shelf PC USB Ethernet device.

Here's the USB Ethernet device I bought for $19.99:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=443248&CatId=589

I plugged it into the Deneb which immediately detected it and mounted it as USBASIXETH.DEVICE unit 0.

Save your USB settings.

Now configure Genesis using the wizard"
Select "Network" for how you plan to connect.
For device enter "usbasixeth.device" and set unit as "0"
Under SANA II configuration select "no"
Don't worry about it not detecting your network address, just manually enter your own (my home network assigns 192.168.0.xxx so I used 192.168.0.110).
Enter your subnet mask (probably 255.255.255.0) and your router address (in my case 192.168.0.1)
Enter your Domain Name Server (DNS) - 192.168.0.1 in my case
Enter your Domain Name ("cablerocket.net" in my case).

Reboot your Amiga and check your Trident prefs and you should see your ethernet adapter up and running. Check Genesis and put the USBASIXETH0 device online if it isn't already. Open your web browser and start surfing!