Excitement about NatAmi

[Piru]

so why all the sudden piru takes sides with cammy?

Why shouldn't I? What's so sudden about it? Please enlighten me.

if they really treat the people like dirt that doesnt say anything about the quality of their wannabe product actually

No, but it does say much about the project management, and that'll ultimately affect the product quality as well.

[spirantho]

By the way, what's so "pfffffffft" about a new audio recording application for Aros?

I wondered that too (as I am the person who wrote said tool). I just assumed the person writing it was about 13 years old and ignored it (although many of the younger members on this forum are rather mature, actually)....

[Manu]

I wondered that too (as I am the person who wrote said tool). I just assumed the person writing it was about 13 years old and ignored it (although many of the younger members on this forum are rather mature, actually)....

Don't take it too hard Ian, that's just normal behaviour of some. No matter what app AROS gets it's always Pfft... etc. from a bunch. I take it as a healthy sign, it means AROS is going in the right direction.

[fishy_fiz]

Each to thier own, but this whole Natami thing is kinda ho-hum to me. The only interesting part about it is the potential to replace the aging classic hardware, but there's other options for that too. The idea of "Superaga" is far from exciting to me. Yay, there's hardware that's only 10 years out of date, woohoo    A better idea to me would have been to simply add some sort of rtg system/hardware to the machine, this way there's actually some advantage to the software available (existing 68k titles that use rtg). I mean really, where is all this "super aga" enhanced stuff supposed to come from? With all of 4.2 games original amiga games made in the last 5 years why would there all of a sudden be new software just because there's moderately enhanced retro hardware available? Additionally the 2 meg chip ram hardly leaves much room for enhanced graphics. ECS/AGA got away with it due to low resolutions and low color depth, up the resolution to even 800x600x24 and 2 meg is nigh on useless. I actually emailed them twice, roughly 12 months and 6 months ago mentioning I was interested in developing for it but received nothing in return (not even a thanks, but no thanks email). From everything Ive seen so far it seems to me that its a project more or less soley for the people behind it, which is fine, stringing others along for the ride however isnt so fine.

Anyway, just my 2 cents. Little bit negative, probably, but it is my opinion.

[the_leander]

This thread is funny!!

I also can't help but think this thread is biased.

There is no such thing as unbiased. Only things that chime with your own biases.

This wouldn't be the first time concerns about how the project was being handled got brought up.

Is cammy really a girl? This is the last place i would expect to find a girl

Does it matter?

[Tripitaka]

I have to admit that I didn't know about the iffy project manglement with regards tothose trying to help. I posted earlier that people who did nothing had no right to complain.
On the flip side, those that do should be treated in a reasonable and respectful way. I have to agree with Piru on that one. I would like to see a reply from a current member of the team on this point however as I don't like to damn anyone without hearing both sides of things. Any takers?

[the_leander]

I have to admit that I didn't know about the iffy project manglement with regards tothose trying to help. I posted earlier that people who did nothing had no right to complain.

Actually they do have the right to pass comment on something regardless of their involvement.

I do not have to own an X1000 to say that there are fundamental flaws in the concept. I don't have to work in the banking industry to say that the whole sector has learned precisely sweet FA. Etc etc...

I would like to see a reply from a current member of the team on this point however as I don't like to damn anyone without hearing both sides of things. Any takers?

Good luck with that. About the most vocal person you'll find on Amiga forums about the Natami these days outside of their own forums is Atheist2, who is most often found on Moobunny on account of having been banned from pretty much everywhere else. Not a good example of someone you'd like to discuss things with probably.

[Tripitaka]

Actually they do have the right to pass comment on something regardless of their involvement.

Complaining and passing comment are two different things. I never said they didn't have the right to comment, of course they do.

[eniacfoa]

Each to thier own, but this whole Natami thing is kinda ho-hum to me. The only interesting part about it is the potential to replace the aging classic hardware, but there's other options for that too. The idea of "Superaga" is far from exciting to me. Yay, there's hardware that's only 10 years out of date, woohoo    A better idea to me would have been to simply add some sort of rtg system/hardware to the machine, this way there's actually some advantage to the software available (existing 68k titles that use rtg). I mean really, where is all this "super aga" enhanced stuff supposed to come from? With all of 4.2 games original amiga games made in the last 5 years why would there all of a sudden be new software just because there's moderately enhanced retro hardware available? Additionally the 2 meg chip ram hardly leaves much room for enhanced graphics. ECS/AGA got away with it due to low resolutions and low color depth, up the resolution to even 800x600x24 and 2 meg is nigh on useless. I actually emailed them twice, roughly 12 months and 6 months ago mentioning I was interested in developing for it but received nothing in return (not even a thanks, but no thanks email). From everything Ive seen so far it seems to me that its a project more or less soley for the people behind it, which is fine, stringing others along for the ride however isnt so fine.

Anyway, just my 2 cents. Little bit negative, probably, but it is my opinion.

I just dont see the point of natami anymore and your right - 2mb chip ram is not enough...its between MOS, AOS, AROS.

Id prefer AROS to be leading the pack

[Tripitaka]

I just dont see the point of natami anymore and your right - 2mb chip ram is not enough...its between MOS, AOS, AROS.

http://www.natami.net/hardware.htm

128Mb Chip Ram Max..........

[jj]

Really dont see the difference between complaining and passing comment.  if the comment you are passing is a complaint ?

[Tripitaka]

Lol, reading the entire thread helps. The complaining I was refering to in the first place was that of those people whining for updates and getting all indignent about it. When, after all is said and done, those doing the work are doing so to add to the hobby and are under no obligation in the first place. That was my original point and no more or less than that. Any other comment (or complaint, moan or whinge) I guess is fair game. Providing one bears in mind the above point.

I hope I've made myself clear and thank you for helping me in my goal of getting to post 666 on the 31st. XD

[the_leander]

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Nevermind - didn't see that there was a second page.

[jj]

No I agree with this. I think people have the right to say anyhting they like. And this includes hurtful, personal , damaging things. But thats another topic
 
Edit:  i was replying to the leander who has now changed his post

[Karlos]

Why shouldn't I? What's so sudden about it? Please enlighten me.

You're a MOS developer and as such don't have the right to an opinion about a different amiga offshoot :lol:

[the_leander]

No I agree with this. I think people have the right to say anyhting they like. And this includes hurtful, personal , damaging things. But thats another topic
 
Edit:  i was replying to the leander who has now changed his post

Gotta love it, eh?