Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?

[ognix]

To this day when i touch my a500 i feel pride but when i bought my quad core 2 months ago i threw it on the table and switched it on and i didn't give a damn about it. It will be a relief to pick up an amiga again and feel pride.

I REALLY understand this: it happens to me as well...
I don't know if it comes from the object itself (I know, we're going out of "tangible reality"), from the experiences it gave me in the past (eg. nostalgia), or from both.

You can say whatever about this, but it's a matter of fact that something exists since we are talking about this! (the Amiga!)  

Anyway at the moment I don't see/feel any special attraction regarding the X1000, exactly as for the AmigaONE.

The only thing is "uprising" me a bit is Natami, if only it will come to life (as MiniMig).

[Franko]

Uh. I obviously was talking in relation to computer HW business, specifically creating totally new platform. Say what Apple and other companies did in the silicon valley.

But sure, I'll edit the post to avoid any further confusion. Apparently it was somehow possible to misinterpret it.

Point taken, but I would still say that such a feat could be possible today if the person has a good enough product and the willpower and capital to make a go of it.

[dammy]

Microsoft chose PowerPC because they could get full control of the chip (and for instance embed security features inside it... making it much harder to crack the console). That was not possible with intel or AMD. Original Xbox was cracked almost instantly and it meant major losses due to piracy.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if M$ went ARM for their next generation XBox now M$ has licensed ARM technology.  I'm sure Bing will see ARM servers, but there is no reason for M$ to stop at servers, why not portable Xbox and if so, why not the next generation XBox itself?

I see every possible perk for M$ to fully embrace their new technology on every level outside of desktops and that maybe a contract away.  They have paid for it already, it's cheap, and they are in control.

Which is the exact opposite of A-EON/Hyperion's course set to epicfailville.

[redrumloa]

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We have a LOT of people like Trevor here in Florida, particularly in South Florida. They usually target the elderly, infirm, and desperately lonely.

Come on Jorkany, that is a little strong isn't it?

[jorkany]

Come on Jorkany, that is a little strong isn't it?

I guess we'll find out eventually. My opinion didn't start out that way but has shifted over the past few weeks. Mod if you wish, you know I won't complain.

[runequester]

Selling overpriced stuff doesn't make you a fraud if the item does what it was promised to do.

Otherwise, Microsoft and Apple would have been out of business years ago mate.

[persia]

@Franko

But three people in a garage are not going to create the next Amiga, a world beating quantum leap in technology.  Those days are gone.  The cost of developing a new hardware system that truly advanced the state of the art would be beyond what anyone could afford.  The '80s were a different time, they won't come again, at least not in computers.

[redrumloa]

I guess we'll find out eventually. My opinion didn't start out that way but has shifted over the past few weeks.  

I haven't seen anything, except he is making a product I am not interested in. AFAIK there is no history to suggest malfeasance.

[persia]

Neither of whom are selling a netbook spec'ed machine at 1500 quid....

Selling overpriced stuff doesn't make you a fraud if the item does what it was promised to do.

Otherwise, Microsoft and Apple would have been out of business years ago mate.

[runequester]

Neither of whom are selling a netbook spec'ed machine at 1500 quid....

From the world english dictionary

1.   deliberate deception, trickery, or cheating intended to gain an advantage
2.   an act or instance of such deception
3.   something false or spurious: his explanation was a fraud
4.   informal  a person who acts in a false or deceitful way

"selling something thats expensive" doesn't seem to be one of the definitions.

[the_leander]

From the world english dictionary

Oh I didn't realise this was deliberately obtuse day!

His comment was clearly in regard to Microsoft's and Apples product lists.

[runequester]

Oh I didn't realise this was deliberately obtuse day!

His comment was clearly in regard to Microsoft's and Apples product lists.

This was understood.

However, claiming someone is a fraud for selling an expensive item is absurd, whether or not that item is overpriced.

Is the company trying to sell something that is not what was advertised ?
Then its a fraud.

Selling something you don't like or charging more money for it than you think is reasonable is not a fraud.

[Franko]

@Franko

But three people in a garage are not going to create the next Amiga, a world beating quantum leap in technology.  Those days are gone.  The cost of developing a new hardware system that truly advanced the state of the art would be beyond what anyone could afford.  The '80s were a different time, they won't come again, at least not in computers.

I still reckon anything is possible, if the idea is good enough and you have the willpower to see it through.

I may be getting on a bit, but all this defeatist talk and total disbelief in just what someone can achieve, only goes to show the almost total lack of self belief and defeatist attitude in folk today.

It's almost as if folk have resigned themselves to the belief that the little man can't do anything anymore without the backing of the multi nationals. It's a sad sorry world we live in if thats the attitude folk have today...

[dammy]

I still reckon anything is possible, if the idea is good enough and you have the willpower to see it through.

I may be getting on a bit, but all this defeatist talk and total disbelief in just what someone can achieve, only goes to show the almost total lack of self belief and defeatist attitude in folk today.

It's almost as if folk have resigned themselves to the belief that the little man can't do anything anymore without the backing of the multi nationals. It's a sad sorry world we live in if thats the attitude folk have today...

Welcome to reality in 2010.  The idea that the little guy that go 1 on 1 with a corp spending literally billions of dollars @ year on R&D is fantasy.  Even C= didn't bother to bake up their own CPU, they used what was best for them and moved on to something they had to create.  The world has changed since the 1980s, hardware is a fast changing commodity and the consumer has won out on buck:bang ratio.  Whatever you dreamed of as a mega computer to own back in the 80s and 90s can probably come to reality in mobile phone that they sell down at the mall.  If it's still not up to par, wait till this time next year, and it will be.

[Franko]

Welcome to reality in 2010.  The idea that the little guy that go 1 on 1 with a corp spending literally billions of dollars @ year on R&D is fantasy.  Even C= didn't bother to bake up their own CPU, they used what was best for them and moved on to something they had to create.  The world has changed since the 1980s, hardware is a fast changing commodity and the consumer has won out on buck:bang ratio.  Whatever you dreamed of as a mega computer to own back in the 80s and 90s can probably come to reality in mobile phone that they sell down at the mall.  If it's still not up to par, wait till this time next year, and it will be.

Reality for you maybe, but I unlike the majority have no need for a mobile phone or an all singing all dancing super duper PC or Mac. I did ask folk for advice in a recent thread for advice on buying my first ever PC and thank you to all who responded with lots of helpful and useful advice.

However having spent a couple of days this week trailing around the shops I can now safely say that the 2 grand I was willing to spend shall be staying in my pocket. The simple reason being nothing I saw impressed me in the slightest. I thought that their may have been something out there that would have at least given me something of the same feeling that I had when I purchased my very first A1000 or C64, but no, all I was left with was the feeling that all they wanted to do was sell me a piece of kit that was for nothing more than browsing the internet.

Oh and they try to convince you that you need to take out an extended warranty for a few hundred quid, if these machines are so unreliable that you need to be covered by said warranty in the first 3 years then they must be absolute crap to start with.

Me, I'm now even more happy in the knowledge that as long as I can keep my original Amiga hardware going, as it does all the computing requirements that I have and will ever need from a computer then I am more than satisfied. I have managed quite happily since my very first Vic20 to live without the need for speed, the internet and all the other pointless things (in my honest opinion) that todays typical home computing user seems to think are necessary.

I grant you that to most folk my opinions and views may be stuck in the past, but I have never been one to purchase something just to be trendy or because it's cool to own one. When my years broadband subscription runs out and if I haven't got one of my miggys online by then then I shall happily go back to living without the net.

Heck, I won't even by a flatscreen TV as they still haven't solved the problem of motion blur yet, what's the point in having a TV that looks good in the corner of you living room when the picture quality is naff, and before you say it not even the latest 600Hz TVs are without motion blur. Just another thing I pointed out when viewing the latest TVs along with PCs to the sales people in the shops. Yes they thought I was quite mad, but that's because to them it's not about the quality of the thing, it's all about how it looks and how it's cool to own one and how can you live without such things, my response to them was... Quite happily thank you...

[tone007]

When my years broadband subscription runs out and if I haven't got one of my miggys online by then then I shall happily go back to living without the net.

However will you make it without your adult chats!?