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Very cool joysticks still available!
« on: December 03, 2003, 12:47:31 AM »
Everyone probably knows that Sega Genesis Game pads work on Amigas and that they are available new at some of the game trading stores like GameStop.  I've collected maybe a dozen of these. Usually, because Sega is different, only 1 fire button works, but it's still a usable joypad.

Whats new to me is that a very simple modification turns these into fully functional 6-button joypads.  It was spelled out several years ago in the docs that come with ADoom, which was just re-released on Aminet.  I did this last night.  You simply swap the Vdd (+5 volts) and Sel wires inside the controller and connect a 470 ohm resister across these same 2 wires.

  Of course, most games won't use all 6 buttons.  But, it's nice to make these excellent controllers completely Amiga specific and compliant.  Even the rapid fire functions work!  These are better than the CD32 joypad.  

 

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Re: Very cool joysticks still available!
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2003, 04:27:09 AM »
I use an awsome Fighter stick SG-6 froma sega system on my Amiga. Is there a place I can see what these wires are so I can makes this mod?! I would love to get more then one working button out of it!!
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Re: Very cool joysticks still available!
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2003, 04:34:10 AM »
As far as I remember Sega Master system 1 & 2 pads worked ok on Amiga 500(+)s without any modification.

I remember playing flashback with my Maverick joystick set to a Sega setting and being able to use one of my fire buttons as Space Bar, to draw my pistol and the other was used to jump and climb I think.  
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Re: Very cool joysticks still available!
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2003, 05:45:15 AM »
I picked up a couple of Genesis "clone" controllers, but they both show up as CD32 controllers, which don't work with most games. Is there a way to modify them so they show up as just a typical joystick?
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Re: Very cool joysticks still available!
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2003, 10:45:30 AM »
That's good to see about the master system controllers. (I'm going to need some sort of pad/stick for my new amiga soon).

But what Roj said is a little unsettling, as I can pickup 2 brand new 3rd party megadrive pads off AU ebay for $12. The description does say they have some sort of mode button on the "shoulder" of the controller though, does that make any difference?
 

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Re: Very cool joysticks still available!
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2003, 11:53:00 AM »
Please note that these Sega-Adaptors will be
supported by all games/emulators using lowlevel.library on Amiga OS 4. I wrote a Driver for AmigaInput for them some while ago, and there is a special version of lowlevel.library for OS 4, which maps the CD32 Buttons to an AmigaInput device.

Actually you even can freely choose the mapping using the GUI of AmigaInput.

:)

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Re: Very cool joysticks still available!
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2003, 12:36:21 PM »
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Please note that these Sega-Adaptors will be
supported by all games/emulators using lowlevel.library on Amiga OS 4. I wrote a Driver for AmigaInput for them some while ago, and there is a special version of lowlevel.library for OS 4, which maps the CD32 Buttons to an AmigaInput device.

Actually you even can freely choose the mapping using the GUI of AmigaInput.

Cool :-)

Will AmigaInput support Sega or CD32 pads (with all buttons) when working with a Catweasel on an A1 ?
 

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Re: Very cool joysticks still available!
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2003, 01:24:27 PM »
Hi!

At least currently support for pads using special adapters (like Sega...) is only existing on Classic Amiga. I am working currently on a Joystick-Driver (PC Analog-Stick) for the AmigaOne, though.

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Re: Very cool joysticks still available!
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2003, 02:50:11 PM »
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Hi!

At least currently support for pads using special adapters (like Sega...) is only existing on Classic Amiga. I am working currently on a Joystick-Driver (PC Analog-Stick) for the AmigaOne, though.

Steffen

Cool, there are lots of PC Analog-Sticks around :-) .

Pity we wont be able to use those Sega or CD32 pads with a Catweasel, I have got kinda attached to them on my old Amiga :-( .
 

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Re: Very cool joysticks still available!
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2003, 02:57:15 PM »
Well, a CD32 Pad should work, as you can use it as
a Digital Joystick also anyways :) The directions are like the directions of a digital stick, and the red button is like the fire button...

Only the ones which need adapters (Sega, 4-Player,...) will need
a Classic Amiga. And well, it would be possible that someone writes Drivers to support those on Catweasel too I guess...

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Re: Very cool joysticks still available!
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2003, 03:02:18 PM »
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Well, a CD32 Pad should work, as you can use it as
a Digital Joystick also anyways :) The directions are like the directions of a digital stick, and the red button is like the fire button...

Only the ones which need adapters (Sega, 4-Player,...) will need
a Classic Amiga. And well, it would be possible that someone writes Drivers to support those on Catweasel too I guess...

Steffen

I suppose both pads would work with the Catweasel then, just without the extra buttons :-( , until a driver is developed (fingers crossed) :-) .
 

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Re: Very cool joysticks still available!
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2003, 03:50:37 PM »
Hi!

BTW: Anybody who has some other cool joystick-adapters and might be interested in testing some code please write me. I have myselves PSX Port, PC Joystick Adapter and Sega-Pads already.

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Re: Very cool joysticks still available!
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2003, 04:28:26 PM »
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MagicSN wrote:
Hi!

BTW: Anybody who has some other cool joystick-adapters and might be interested in testing some code please write me. I have myselves PSX Port, PC Joystick Adapter and Sega-Pads already.

Steffen


Hi I use the following adapter to use Playstation controllers with My PC.

http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=PC&title=114167


Any chance of Amiga support?
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Re: Very cool joysticks still available!
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2003, 04:39:06 PM »
Depends on how this adaptor works... does it "emulate" the pad as a USB Game-Adapter or what does it do ? A USB Gamepad Driver for AmigaOne is in works...

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Re: Very cool joysticks still available!
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2003, 04:51:47 PM »
I am not too sure.

I had to install a driver for Windows XP for it to work before plugging in the USB part on the PC.

When the USB adapter has a PSX controller attached and it is plugged into the PC it is recognised as a USB playstation controller and you can bring up its custom configuration and setting by going to the standard 'game controllers' in control panel.

It quite a cheap adapter BTW an I  reccomend it.
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