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Re: The great PC-Task thread
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2010, 01:03:17 AM »
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IMHO, it's one of those things that should ultimately have had a PPC version. Emulating an x86 on PPC would certainly have been a lot more effective than doing it on 68K, especially with a JIT implementation.


That was pretty much the reason why I got a real PC and not a PPC card. If only someone had done a PPC x86 emu.
 

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Re: The great PC-Task thread
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2010, 06:31:49 PM »
For now, i could use some help for the mouse.
I have ticked mouse emulation in the setting, and serial as well (it is said that the mouse emulated is seen as COM2 on the PC side) but it does'nt work with the MSDOS 5 driver.
I use an usb mouse on an adapter to standard amiga mouse port.
What am i doing wrong?
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Re: The great PC-Task thread
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2010, 06:46:02 PM »
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IMHO, it's one of those things that should ultimately have had a PPC version. Emulating an x86 on PPC would certainly have been a lot more effective than doing it on 68K, especially with a JIT implementation.

I was surprised by the speed of dosbox running under OS4.. It was fast enough to play the DOS version of settlers. So thats an option for classic users that want to play old DOS games.
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Re: The great PC-Task thread
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2010, 08:29:35 PM »
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I was surprised by the speed of dosbox running under OS4.. It was fast enough to play the DOS version of settlers. So thats an option for classic users that want to play old DOS games.



Wouldn't a native DOSBox be more efficient?
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Re: The great PC-Task thread
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2010, 08:49:43 PM »
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Wouldn't a native DOSBox be more efficient?


DOSBox runs natively on AmigaOS 4. It's faster than the PC-Task, but PC-Task is 68K.
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Re: The great PC-Task thread
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2010, 03:00:43 PM »
Some more impressive results with PC-Task:

An A1200 runs Dune in color VGA:


and Conquest of the Longbow in color VGA:




Unfortunately, PC-Task sometimes freeze, though it does not crash the amiga system at all: clean programming :)

I still can't figure out how to use my amiga mouse inside PC-Task.
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Re: The great PC-Task thread
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2010, 03:06:46 PM »
Try using Cutemouse or another 3rd party driver...?
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Re: The great PC-Task thread
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2010, 03:26:31 PM »
Can't help - just used ordinary Amiga mouse without any problems.
 

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Re: The great PC-Task thread
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2010, 03:47:09 PM »
Could that be i am using an USB adapter to the amiga mouse port?
During the boot sequence of MSDOS 5, a Microsoft mouse driver is mentioned but does not find any mouse.
I'm going to try another driver.
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Re: The great PC-Task thread
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2010, 03:59:56 PM »
I used PC Task in, like, 1992 or 1993 to do a programming assignment for college in Turbo Pascal.  It was really slow on my stock A1200 with a Power Computing 2MB Fast RAM and FPU board, (way slower than the 286's they had in college) but I got the work done and got a distinction.
 

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Re: The great PC-Task thread
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2010, 04:27:45 PM »
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Could that be i am using an USB adapter to the amiga mouse port?
During the boot sequence of MSDOS 5, a Microsoft mouse driver is mentioned but does not find any mouse.
I'm going to try another driver.


Have you tried the mouse driver that comes with PC-Task?
 

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Re: The great PC-Task thread
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2010, 05:05:34 PM »
If it has recently become freeware, perhaps the author who has given it to the community would be so kind as to release the source with it. I think that would be a great benefit to this particular group.

It seems many of the remaining Amiga fans are software engineers. Perhaps a PPC version could still be done.
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Re: The great PC-Task thread
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2010, 06:08:03 PM »
I used PC-Task a bit under Amithlon/os3.9 on an old athlon64 some years back when I was "amiga" only (ie. I had no Windows machines) and it was actually pretty usable. I used to play dos wing commander and it ran quite well. 68k dosbox was usable too, but pc-task was definately faster. The jit style emulation in pc task was erratic though on amithlon, would run normal speed with random bursts of extra speed to a point of it being a distraction in games. Mightve been possible to fix it, but I was happy enough without jit. Man, good times though  :)
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Re: The great PC-Task thread
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2010, 06:11:51 PM »
PC Task was ace back in the day, I got Windows 3.1(1?) on floppy installed on it (IIRC it's on original double densities in my loft still). On a fast 030 it's comparable to a 286 at ~8mhz (I know as my parents had a "turbo" 12/16mhz 286).

Even if the source was released it'll probably take a monstrous amount of work to get it to modern standards on a PowerPC.

These days you can pick up tiny powerful PCs and network them if you need to do anything like that... does the Amiga have free VNC client/native AmigaOS X11 servers?
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Re: The great PC-Task thread
« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2010, 01:25:52 PM »
Hey dudes, Windows 3.1 runs great on PC Task with 060 (except for the refresh rate on AGA but an RTG board could help).

I have learned yesterday that this is the only Windows OS to be 100% safe and immune to modern virii and malwares.

Would there be any way to emulate a network card on PC-Task in order to do internet?
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Re: The great PC-Task thread
« Reply #29 from previous page: December 06, 2010, 02:28:26 PM »
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I used PC Task in, like, 1992 or 1993 to do a programming assignment for college in Turbo Pascal.  It was really slow on my stock A1200 with a Power Computing 2MB Fast RAM and FPU board, (way slower than the 286's they had in college) but I got the work done and got a distinction.


Ditto. I even coded a Windows 3 look-alike GUI in Pascal with inline assembly that used a serial mouse to operate it.

Distinction was guaranteed. :)
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