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[Piru]

The main contributor is in charge. It's not even known if others will put any money in since it starts at such a impressive amount. If you don't like that don't donate, no one is asking you to.

The amount in question isn't that large really, considering the work required. However, obviously he can do whatever he likes with the money. Just don't expect everyone else to jump in.

Unfortunately no one contributed to the UAE for Mac Bounty and it was closed.

I have a strong feeling this will happen to this bounty as well.

It doesn't help that there are only handful of people with required background knowledge.

[J-Golden]

I've never been big into the video editing side of the Amiga (I luvs the sound though:afro: ) but what I'm gettingfrom this bounty is recreating what the fist toaster did, open the doors to a cheap but powerful editing system that WORKS!
 
Yeah, I know things have become cheaper and you can get a video capture card for a few $$$, but none of that stuff is really quality.  If this works out and is held to the same standards as the original VT, then I think we will see something rather cool that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
 
Also, think about what this bounty is doing.  Noone has really done anything with the Open VT code.  This incentive will hopefully change that!
 
PS-  From what I understand, this will also take more direct advantage of which ever system it is created for, instaed of being some genaric POS (Piece of Software).

[Piru]

Yeah, I know things have become cheaper and you can get a video capture card for a few $$$, but none of that stuff is really quality.

Have you compared these solutions against VT? Enthusiasm is good, but basing it on false premise is not.

[Pyromania]

@Plaz

Of course the TriCaster and VT[5] are awesome. They are amazing solutions for live streaming, editing, and video production for Windows. Open Video Toaster is about preserving and enhancing the rich heritage of the Amiga Video Toaster and hopefully updating it a little bit for modern times on Amiga OS 4.x, AROS & MorphOS. How is video editing done on these operating systems today? It's not

[J-Golden]

@Piru
 
Ok, lemme clarify. When I was talking about the cheap video capture cards and the like, I wasn't compairing them to the VT in price, Iwas talking about how, once upon a time, the VT was the "Cheap Video Capture Card" compaired the the SG boxes of the day. The only difference was that the VT put out good stuff
 
What I wasn't trying to say is that a new VT would be a cheap but quality replacement to the $100 and lower video grabers on the market today. Even if the software stays open source, the Hardware for it needs to be bought.
 
Hope that clears things up:)

[Franko]

Still not quite sure what this thread is all about... :confused:

But if you buy yourself a decent DVD/HD recorder with built in editing functions then hook it up to your miggy via USB and a couple of other bit and bobs, then you've got yourself a fully functioning video editing suite, just like I have...

[Plaz]

Open Video Toaster is about preserving and enhancing the rich heritage of the Amiga Video Toaster and hopefully updating it a little bit for modern times on Amiga OS 4.x, AROS & MorphOS. How is video editing done on these operating systems today? It's not

A noble goal, but I'm trying to invision the implementation and having a tough time.

The first possibility is to recreate the classic Amiga and Toaster in tandem on FPGA. One option is to take Minimig AGA and marry it to a new FPGA Toaster. That gets you started by letting you use your current Open Toaster code with classic Amiga OS 3.x, but doesn't really get you on to AOS4, AROS or MOS based hardware. FPGAmiToast becomes it's own stand alone hardware/editor. Not a bad thing, but how many customers are we talking about?

I suppose in the next step you could do the same type thing NewTek did with the VT[2]... They had a front end on a forgien OS (windows actually) "drive" the Amiga/Toaster hardware. A two box setup. You could have a front end on AOS4, MOS and AROS "drive" the new FPGA AmiToaster, but like the windows solution, it's kind of redundant.

Am I close on how you're thinkning on this? Normally I would be all for this type of project, but the target audience seems terribly small.

I'm thinking it would be cool to concentrate efforts to get VT[5] drivers and apps ported to AOS4 instead. Pop a PCI VT card into a AOS4, MOS or AROS board and you are smokin'

Plaz

[Plaz]

Still not quite sure what this thread is all about... :confused:

But if you buy yourself a decent DVD/HD recorder with built in editing functions then hook it up to your miggy via USB and a couple of other bit and bobs, then you've got yourself a fully functioning video editing suite, just like I have...

Watch this video and you see one of the reasons we still talk about Amiga/Toaster 20 years later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyGCYoZ5Nlk

Plaz

[Pyromania]

I'm thinking it would be cool to concentrate efforts to get VT[5] drivers and apps ported to AOS4 instead. Pop a PCI VT card into a AOS4, MOS or AROS board and your are smokin'

Plaz

Yea, we thought about that one but no one was interested.

[Pyromania]

Watch this video and you see one of the reasons we still talk about Amiga/Toaster 20 years later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyGCYoZ5Nlk

Plaz

This video is good too and shows off the AGA version of the Amiga Video Toaster 4000.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_K8vnx2ZDc


Plugs from Penn & Teller, Wil Weaton  & Tony Hawk help too.

[Franko]

Watch this video and you see one of the reasons we still talk about Amiga/Toaster 20 years later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyGCYoZ5Nlk

Plaz

I've seen that video before and been around the Amiga since my first A1000 back in 86. If only they had released a PAL version of the toaster then the whole Amiga history may have been a much happier story than the one we've all been following for some 20 odd years.

The Toaster could have been the one thing that saved the Amiga but alas for whatever reasons, this was sadly not the case.

[spihunter]

I'm afriad that I'm going to have to agree with people saying that this is a waste of time... People love the Amiga for Retro Games and fun computing but know one I know that is into Video & editing is in to "Retro video Production" Unless your talking about 8mm B&W camera's and manual tape splicing...

[cv643d]

Hello guys, seriously you are always confusing (sorry)

What I understand about the Toaster is that you can edit VHS quality movie and press a button from a series of buttons, each button is an effect between two scenes. Those effects where kind of cool back in 1994.

IMHO I think there are many better solutions for video editing out there today, I actually do not know, but I asume there must have been some innovation in this area in 20 years. There are actully web sites out there that lets you upload a video and edit it online.

I think they got all kind of cool effects too, and you only have to click a button.

Or am I wrong?

What is it with this VideoToaster fanboy-mentality, we never had the damn thing in europe, please enlight us (Yes I have watched that YouTube video)

[tone007]

Video toaster effects were great on old blurry CRTs.  These days, everything going digital, it only makes sense to relegate the old analog equipment to the last century.

[Plaz]

Yea, we thought about that one but no one was interested.

Who are these "no ones"? Not interested in bringing Amiga and NewTek back together on modern hardware??? Yet reinventing the wheel makes sense to them? Madness.

Then we're back to the only option left that makes a lick of sense... combo FPGA MinimigAGA/Toaster stand-alone running AOS3.x, make a front-end GUI that runs on AOS4, MOS, AROS and maybe grow from there to include HD features. Still... a tough sell to a small audience.

Plaz

[desiv]

Funny, if you take the above complaints and replace "Video Toaster" with "Video Games" "VHS quality" for "90's quality graphics", you get things like:

"I don't know anyone who wants "Video Games" with 90's quality" graphics today."

And we know that's not true...

I know people who used the Video Toaster for fun, so it would make sense that it could still be fun to do..

Now, whether or not that market (people who want to use a VT for fun) is large enough to build up enough of a bounty is questionable...

But I don't see the harm in trying...

Of course, one of the great past times of this board seems to be telling people why they can't/shouldn't do something, so keep having fun there...  ;-)

desiv