Pirated Amiga software on ebay

[XDelusion]

As long as it ain't copies of MorphOS and other currently support Amiga software, I hardly see the harm.

In regards to selling the Kickstart ROMS...

I wish they were free as it were. I don't understand the point of keeping them licensed.

[ajlwalker]

I stole a pack of gum from the IGA when I was five.  Does that mean I have no place to speak against theft?

Pretty much in my book, yes.

If you'd said you stole some bread because you were poor and hungry, then that's a different matter.

I jest of course, but just wanted to point out that some theft is excusable in my book.

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I stand corrected re the profits being made by this individual.  However, maybe he has lost his job.  Maybe he's trying to get some money together to pay the rent.  It's never ethically right, but so long as it contains ancient games that are no longer supported or developed/sold, then I'm not sure I can get that bothered about it.

If it contained the likes of BOH then I think we could all be rightly incensed.

Having said that I doubt piracy does any harm whatsoever when it comes to the developers/publishers.  These people would never have bought the games anyway.

[Belial6]

Now, is that really the point?  Sure, there are plenty of accidental violations in our lives, so should we just deliberately perpetrate or condone violations because it is so easy to transiently transgress?

Yes, it is the point.  I was not talking about accidental violations, and trying to pretend like your speeding and copyright violations are 'accidental' is laughable.  When you do 40 in a 35 zone in your car, you full well know that you are breaking the law.  Plugging your ears and pretending like you didn't notice that you were breaking the law doesn't change the fact that you were.

Either you are a letter of the law type person, or you recognize that some laws are just don't matter that much.  Playing absolutist concerning copyright is simply ridiculous and hypocritical.

[the_leander]

When you do 40 in a 35 zone in your car, you full well know that you are breaking the law.

Most analogue speedos are accurate to within around 10% (+/- 5%) of actual, which can be further made even less accurate depending on the angle you look at it (for instance if you're exceptionally tall or if you have your seat laid right back.

So in practice, you really can do 40 in a 35 and not know it.

hypocritical.

You keep using this word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

I note you've still not provided evidence for the 99% figure you used earlier along with this repeated claim of hypocrisy. .

[stefcep2]

Given that attitude, might as well just put a gun to your head, mate, and sod ever coming to a different perspective or maybe swaying others to see yours.  Seriously, discussion and debate in any forum or venue is valuable.  With the exception of trolls and trolling, which qualify as neither discussion nor debate.

Personally, I am not here to while away my time before I become worm food.  I am here to participate, exchange information, exchange interpretations and perspectives with others, maybe even learn something.

Anyone who cannot get into the swing thereof, or has some despotic stance against, really should just delete his or her account and head off elsewhere.  Or just lurk more and wag your head back and forth about the morons wasting time talking to each other.  I mean, sheesh, stupid humans.

Look, the fact is that in most cases you're unlikely to change anyone's opinion by engaging in an internet debate.  It happens sometimes but usually it doesn't.  The vast majority of posters just want to have their opinion seen and heard.

Take this thread: who has changed their stance on pirating old software because of the views presented by anyone else?

OTOH Help forums/threads are different.

[stefcep2]

Most analogue speedos are accurate to within around 10% (+/- 5%) of actual, which can be further made even less accurate depending on the angle you look at it (for instance if you're exceptionally tall or if you have your seat laid right back.

So in practice, you really can do 40 in a 35 and not know it.

Try telling the magistrate that and see how far you get.

Anyway, it only really matters if you get caught.  In which case, the police's measurements allow a margin for error anyway.

[the_leander]

Try telling the magistrate that and see how far you get.

Depending on how much over you were, coupled with the road quality etc, potentially you could get away with it.

Anyway, it only really matters if you get caught.  In which case, the police's measurements allow a margin for error anyway.

They used to in the UK, however recently they implemented a zero tolerance policy, which thanks to the accuracy of speed cameras meant that in some areas (notably Avon and Somerset) people were being hit for points and fines for going .5 of a mile an hour over the limit.

Due to the outcry and the fact that it was physically impossible for the average motorist to get readings accurate enough not to get slapped, leeway was re-introduced very quietly.

[Amiga_Nut]

I 'pirate' stuff all the time because the companies don't preserve these games to stop them being lost forever, so screw them.

That DVD contains Kickstart and Workbench files so he is selling Cloanto's stuff in a way......not that I give a crap. Cloanpoo didn't write a single line of UAE code so they can drop dead with their unlicensed games on DVD for 30 Euros too.

My issue is with cost and lack of intelligence of these sellers selling 9 DVDs, for a start the whole lot fits on 5 DVDs max, and not many people want all CD32 ISOs, so the whole thing can be shrunk down to 1 DVD with 23,000 ADFs and CD32 games worth having

Which btw you can get for 7.99 direct from a genius on the internet already.