Roadshow for 68K -Needs your support!

[itix]

Most Amiga users probably use WinUAE where they dont need TCP/IP stack anymore.

[kolla]

As a fellow norwegian you dont have to travel so far from the major cities before you might need to rediscover ADSL and maybe even ISDN...

But I will not have to deal with an ADSL modem directly connected to the computer, like there used to be. Instead there are "smart" ADSL and ISDN routers that you configure through a LAN port.

[buzz]

Roadshow is not yet a dead product. (ie, there's still someone around to work on it to fix bugs, add features, whatever) Holger is gone. Oregon Research is gone. Are the Genesis/AmiTCP guys still around?

The activity on the thread is casting doubt on whether there is someone around for roadshow either.

[Thorham]

Most Amiga users probably use WinUAE where they dont need TCP/IP stack anymore.

Clearly emulation users don't need this. Amiga users on the other hand may find this interesting.

Can people stop slagging of this product please?

To olsen:

Don't let these complainers demotivate you. People like them are to be found everywhere, and what they say is not important at all

[buzz]

who has slagged it off? Surely some people were only questioning how much something like this is needed, not the product itself, and some don't see the need. I do, but I fear it may never see the light of day.

[Thorham]

who has slagged it off? Surely some people were only questioning how much something like this is needed, not the product itself, and some don't see the need.

They're still just complaining about something that someone made. Also, Roadshow seems to be a good alternative to the current 680x0 stacks and plenty of people have shown interest. Apparently a product like this is still welcomed by people, and that they don't see it as useful doesn't matter. Their complaining can only serve to demotivate the developer, and that's not a good thing.

[kolla]

They're still just complaining about something that someone made.

The only complaint is that it isn't available already. I really do not grasp why Olsen isn't just putting it out as-is, sources and all, and to heck with Hyperion, it's just an old TCP stack for a long dead plattform for crying out loud. But do I really need Roadshow? No, I already have paid Miami and MiamiDx from 12-13 years ago already.

Their complaining can only serve to demotivate the developer, and that's not a good thing.

The developer seems pretty good at demotivating himself all on his own here, sadly. And I'm sure Hyperion isn't helping. Would be so much better to just let it go, and have some more motivated people pick it up and do the finishing touches and continued support. These ego-tripping perfectionists who insists on doing everything themselves, typically end up miserable, and the end products die.

[guest6931]

OLSEN:
Put up a bounty for the complete sources. Presumably you still own the copyright. Sell the whole project to the community. I'm sure we could put up a good sum to make it worthwhile. Probably much more so than selling individual copies.

[kolla]

Put up a bounty for the complete sources

That's the only thing I'd be willing to pay for, as I mentioned in August last year, in comment 43 on this thread.  :hammer:

[mikerm]

I'm fairly new to Amiga (and brand new to this board), but I for one would also purchase this if it ever comes out. I just switched from MiamiDX to AmiTCP (thankfully someone found the mirror of the guide that shows you how to edit what needs to be edited). It's a huge perfomance boost for my 2000.  I for one would love a non-gui new stack that could do dhcp, and any resource improvements. I read through most of the thread, and am kind of disappointed in the nay-sayers. I think anyone who has the skills to make something for old hardware is awesome. I mean, they are making Commodore PET storage devices now. I don't think anyone should depress anyone else for being creative, even if it only helps one person.

You can put me on the "will buy" list, you know, as long as it's not too expensive.

whdload was expensive to me since I'm poor, but I am all for supporting people who have the knowledge to support the hardware I love. Besides, shouldn't we let the market decide? If nobody buys it, then he has the answer, if a ton of people buy it, then even better. The price can also be adjusted!

More power to you Olaf!

[LoadWB]

I'm fairly new to Amiga (and brand new to this board), but I for one would also purchase this if it ever comes out. I just switched from MiamiDX to AmiTCP (thankfully someone found the mirror of the guide that shows you how to edit what needs to be edited). It's a huge perfomance boost for my 2000.  I for one would love a non-gui new stack that could do dhcp, and any resource improvements. I read through most of the thread, and am kind of disappointed in the nay-sayers. I think anyone who has the skills to make something for old hardware is awesome. I mean, they are making Commodore PET storage devices now. I don't think anyone should depress anyone else for being creative, even if it only helps one person.

You can put me on the "will buy" list, you know, as long as it's not too expensive.

whdload was expensive to me since I'm poor, but I am all for supporting people who have the knowledge to support the hardware I love. Besides, shouldn't we let the market decide? If nobody buys it, then he has the answer, if a ton of people buy it, then even better. The price can also be adjusted!

More power to you Olaf!

Well said, and +1 Insightful.  Welcome to Amiga.org.

[ognix]

I'm fairly new to Amiga (and brand new to this board), but I for one would also purchase this if it ever comes out. I just switched from MiamiDX to AmiTCP (thankfully someone found the mirror of the guide that shows you how to edit what needs to be edited). It's a huge perfomance boost for my 2000.  I for one would love a non-gui new stack that could do dhcp, and any resource improvements. I read through most of the thread, and am kind of disappointed in the nay-sayers. I think anyone who has the skills to make something for old hardware is awesome. I mean, they are making Commodore PET storage devices now. I don't think anyone should depress anyone else for being creative, even if it only helps one person.

You can put me on the "will buy" list, you know, as long as it's not too expensive.

whdload was expensive to me since I'm poor, but I am all for supporting people who have the knowledge to support the hardware I love. Besides, shouldn't we let the market decide? If nobody buys it, then he has the answer, if a ton of people buy it, then even better. The price can also be adjusted!

More power to you Olaf!

More thumbs up with this positive thinking!  

[nicholas]

OLSEN:
Put up a bounty for the complete sources. Presumably you still own the copyright. Sell the whole project to the community. I'm sure we could put up a good sum to make it worthwhile. Probably much more so than selling individual copies.

+1

[Dwyloc]

+1

-100

I don't think me should kill off commercial Amiga software development just because some people are to cheap to pay for anything.

Equally open sources it not bad or evil but software authorise need to be given the freedom to release their software in the way that works best for them.

If you are unwilling to pay the full going hourly rate for work, software, office work or any other type of work you have no right to expect anyone to give their work away, but they are always free to do charity work if they wish to do so.

Open sources in the Amiga market is the same.  We can't afford to pay bounties at the going hourly rate for good software developers, but we don't want to discourage them from offering us software of any sort free or commercial.

[Ancalimon]

Any news on this?

Also, I would love this to be able to establish a Network connection with my standard Windows7x64 installation and make the Amiga visible to the Network. The perfect Network solution for Amiga

[Vulture]

Any news Olaf? Hope there's progress