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Re: ZorRAM vs. Busters
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2010, 08:16:01 PM »
My ZorRAM arrived today! Postal service literally massacred the package :angry:. Fortunately card was packaged very carefully and is not damaged.

I installed it immediately and tested extensively for a few hours. Looks like I was worried needlessly, because it works great even with Buster 7 :).
 

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Re: ZorRAM vs. Busters
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2010, 09:03:19 PM »
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A4000D(Buster11) + Blizzard 4030/50MHz + IndivisonAGA + Mediator4000Di (WinSize 512MB) + Radeon 256MB (with automatic Monitorswitch) + Realtek8139C + Deneb (FirmwareV9) + ZorRam 256MB = working

... but now i am running out of ZIII-ConfigSpace ... $4000.0000 - $7fff.ffff :-P


You need a beefier CPU in there ;)  Otherwise you are good.  how did you do the automatic monitor switch for the Radeon?
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Re: ZorRAM vs. Busters
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2010, 09:22:26 PM »
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My ZorRAM arrived today! Postal service literally massacred the package :angry:. Fortunately card was packaged very carefully and is not damaged.

I installed it immediately and tested extensively for a few hours. Looks like I was worried needlessly, because it works great even with Buster 7 :).


Perfect! Buster7 is the best! :)
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Re: ZorRAM vs. Busters
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2010, 11:39:40 PM »
B7 works, that is good to know. I wondered about this. Enjoy!
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Re: ZorRAM vs. Busters
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2010, 09:44:13 PM »
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You need a beefier CPU in there ;)  Otherwise you are good.  how did you do the automatic monitor switch for the Radeon?


I send my defective CyberstormPPC to Vesa... in 2001 and it never returned.

http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19230
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Re: ZorRAM vs. Busters
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2010, 10:00:47 PM »
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I send my defective CyberstormPPC to Vesa... in 2001 and it never returned.

http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19230
(my selfmade monitorswitch based on the stmav340-referencedesign)


Your monitor switch looks awesome :) Does it fit in normal A4000 case if that radeon is connected to the Mediator?  I have what it looks like exact same Radeon card... :)

By the way, yesterday I put a Sapphire PCI Radeon 9250 256MB into my A4000 Mediator system and it worked! Much to my surprise ;)
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Re: ZorRAM vs. Busters
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2010, 10:43:27 PM »
Just so you guys know we have  1 Buster 11 chip left in stock fresh system pull for sale if you are interested pm me. Its a good idea in General to have a Buster 11 in your a3k or a4k as it improves many things on the bus... with a lot less bugs and more speed. As shown in this thread many of the high end zorro 3 cards need buster 11 to run correctly!
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Re: ZorRAM vs. Busters
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2010, 08:52:05 AM »
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Your monitor switch looks awesome :) Does it fit in normal A4000 case if that radeon is connected to the Mediator?  I have what it looks like exact same Radeon card... :)

By the way, yesterday I put a Sapphire PCI Radeon 9250 256MB into my A4000 Mediator system and it worked! Much to my surprise ;)


Switch to Page 3 (Seite 3) on that thread and you will see the Radeon inside the A4000D-housing.
Alternativ ... http://www.a1k.org/forum/showpost.php?p=360634&postcount=79

( The free PCI-Slot between Radeon and Network/USB is reserved for a PCI-Soundcard. But I need a card with OpenPCI-Support .. FM801 or is the SB128 fully supported by OpenPCI? )
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Re: ZorRAM vs. Busters
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2010, 09:04:24 AM »
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Just so you guys know we have  1 Buster 11 chip left in stock fresh system pull for sale if you are interested pm me. Its a good idea in General to have a Buster 11 in your a3k or a4k as it improves many things on the bus... with a lot less bugs and more speed. As shown in this thread many of the high end zorro 3 cards need buster 11 to run correctly!


For all the google-translaters .. on a1k exist a thread about the deneb and technical details about diferences between buster 9 and buster 11.
It seems to be, that ONLY buster 9 is able to handle TWO ZIII-cards in DMA-mode.
But it needs some workarounds to fix some timing problems, Deneb firmware can handle ist.
Buster11 is fixed in some issues but is only able to handle ONE ZIII-card in DMA-mode.
 

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Re: ZorRAM vs. Busters
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2010, 01:55:53 AM »
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Its a good idea in General to have a Buster 11 in your a3k or a4k as it improves many things on the bus...



Unless you have a 16MHz A3000.
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Re: ZorRAM vs. Busters
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2010, 02:08:48 AM »
@strim, I hope it's still going well.  Congrat's, Good outcome.
 

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Re: ZorRAM vs. Busters
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2010, 03:20:23 AM »
Quote from: Ratte;576443
Switch to Page 3 (Seite 3) on that thread and you will see the Radeon inside the A4000D-housing.
Alternativ ... http://www.a1k.org/forum/showpost.php?p=360634&postcount=79

( The free PCI-Slot between Radeon and Network/USB is reserved for a PCI-Soundcard. But I need a card with OpenPCI-Support .. FM801 or is the SB128 fully supported by OpenPCI? )


Very nice. I like how you have saved a PCI slot by putting the Deneb USB connectors and realtek 8139 card on the same backplane.  Good stuff.

Unfortunately for my A4000 (which is very similar to yours with Mediator PCI/4000i and Deneb), I often switch between OS 3.9BB4 and OS 4.0 so I don't put in a realtek 8139.

I have to keep the cards that are compatible with both OS 3.9 and OS 4.0 in the system.

So right now I have:

Voodoo 3 PCI (with fan - that chip gets VERY hot)
Realtek 8029
Deneb
ZorRAM 256MB

Those cards all either work in OS 4.0 or don't conflict with it, so when I switch between OS 3.9 and OS 4.0 I don't have to change any hardware.

I also don't like how the Radeon doesn't support Warp3D...too bad really :(

Otherwise for sure I'd prefer to leave my Radeon 9250 PCI 256MB in there...
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Re: ZorRAM vs. Busters
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2010, 03:23:29 AM »
Quote from: Ratte;576444
For all the google-translaters .. on a1k exist a thread about the deneb and technical details about diferences between buster 9 and buster 11.
It seems to be, that ONLY buster 9 is able to handle TWO ZIII-cards in DMA-mode.
But it needs some workarounds to fix some timing problems, Deneb firmware can handle ist.
Buster11 is fixed in some issues but is only able to handle ONE ZIII-card in DMA-mode.


I wish some enterprising individual would make a new Buster Rev.12 to fix all the lame bugs and limitations and make it faster....single DMA busmaster sucks (not to mention, it would be nice if Zorro 3 was faster.
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Re: ZorRAM vs. Busters
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2010, 08:00:26 AM »
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@strim, I hope it's still going well.  Congrat's, Good outcome.


Sure, my Amiga is very stable and having this much RAM is amazing :afro: .
 

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Re: ZorRAM vs. Busters
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2010, 11:43:36 PM »
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I send my defective CyberstormPPC to Vesa... in 2001 and it never returned.

http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19230
(my selfmade monitorswitch based on the stmav340-referencedesign)


is that monitor switch auto switching. i have a monitor switch built into the A1200 motherboard and switch between Indivision & Bvision.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2010, 11:50:25 PM by delshay »
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Re: ZorRAM vs. Busters
« Reply #29 from previous page: August 31, 2010, 12:51:40 AM »
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I wish some enterprising individual would make a new Buster Rev.12 to fix all the lame bugs and limitations and make it faster....single DMA busmaster sucks (not to mention, it would be nice if Zorro 3 was faster.


One can dream :)
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