Wow, you're still gripping onto that whole argument that you barely understood at the time?
I argued the PCE soundchip and the PCE CD audio as two separate points. It's not a sampling chip. It's a WSG. It just happens to be able to sample on each channel also (6 channels!). The CD audio argument is that it surpasses everything since it can have music made up of sound from whatever in the piss you want. Studio mastered audio on a CD based game is going to beat the piss out of any sound chip. Mix Amiga, Atari, a kazoo, and a friggin roland from 2010. Who cares. It can do it all. You do know what a CD is right? It's those shiny discs you stare at and drool as the light reflects off the bottoms?
I also never said it's (the WSG) is better quality. I said it sounds better and works better for games. There is a reason why arcade machines used FM/PSG/WSG instead of sampling a majority of the time. It fits and is much smoother for the type of game in question. Kind of like how if you were to have a live band for the soundtrack of a NES game.... it wouldn't fit at all. Having the music and sfx blend properly is very important in games.
I know you're sort of dopey and don't really get it so I will just leave it at that.
Thats nice. Doesn't change the fact that iBrowse loads pages up kind of slow and jerky, and a comparable win95 machine doesn't have the same dilemma.
Also, now that you mention it, Netscape works better too. Thats two browsers.
man, nothing gets past the AMIGA_NUT.
Hmm. Don't recall that problem. then again I was like 9 at the time. My computer didn't crash alot back then, and doesn't now.
It only crashed when we got AOL.
Yet Win95 and then 98, and beyond, are what most corporations used and still use. Maybe you have no experience with what the real world is doing past 1993.
Big words from the flid whose opening argument here was a direct attack, and who bounces from computer scene to computer scene being fanboy of said computer until he's gone so r-tard that he has to leave. Your problem is you have tunnel vision love for the computer the forum you are currently hamfisting on is about. You can't see past it being the best thing since sliced bread because you just want approval.
Dumbass, go read the title of the thread. In fact, here let me help you since you will probably go ADD on the way to reading it and start spewing more idiocy:
AMIGA vs PC.
I don't see how discussing the pros/cons of a PC is off topic in a thread where PC IS IN THE FRIGGING TITLE. As usual, hamfisted fliddery has made you look like the forum tard. You know, sort of like your opening comment in this post. What is on topic about insulting me and bringing up a thread thats been done for awhile now? Good job. Loosen the chin strap on your helmet. It's cutting off the circulation to what little brain you have left.
I should hope so considering an A1000 is newer by some years.
Oh, but I thought it was clear that the Amiga was superior no matter what. Now you change your stance to a "maybe", depending on how you have everything configured? Simpleton.
So you're saying this whole thread is useless? Try leaving then. You've contributed nothing but nonsense, as per the AMIGA_NUT standard.
LITTLE ARKHAN, OVER AND OUT.
A post full of more bullshit than Bush trying to explain away the lack of any evidence for WMD development in Iraq after Gulf War 2.0 haha.
It would be funny except that in his deluded sense of reality he actually believes he is right. And it took two pages of bullshit to try and dispel a handful of factual inconsistencies that go at odds with surfing the web on it's debut years on PC being anything other than an exercise in frustration thanks to sockets getting lost and GDI memory being eaten by the kernal and spat out into oblivion. I remember all too well the problems with Win95....I was a bloody service manager for one of the worlds largest re-insurance companies with users totalling 20,000+ And believe me seeing the back of 95 was cause for massive celebration in the IT department here.
Oh well over and out indeed, kicked off the forum for trolling and negative repeated comments with bullshit facts to back it up no doubt. Sanity has indeed prevailed.
As far as I'm concerned, at the time Commodore launched the A1200 up to their bankruptcy the only machine worth a crap for surfing the internet was Unix box + Netscape. Decent OS and decent browser. PCs were expensive, Win 3.1 was a farce and their only plus point was regular releases of Netscape but certainly NOT IE.
The difference is whilst Commodore were fighting off creditors, so you can understand them not exactly wasting millions on developing a web browser for WB 3.x in 93/94, Microsoft were making money in the billions and they still had an inferior browser (IE 1, 2, 3) compared to Netscape AND their next gen OS (Win95) had major flaws in dealing with both sockets AND graphically intensive (for the time) applications like a web browser surfing pages full of GIFs and JPEGs
FACT Win95+surfing on IE continuously = Reboot city. Trust me I know, it was a major deal breaker for SLA reporting!
Win 98 + Netscape + 16mb + Pentium 120 was indeed quite OK. But seeing as that's 4 years after Commodore went bankrupt and ESCOM were nothing more than box shifters for 12 months what do you really expect from Amiga? And actually iMac was far easier to get onto the internet with out of the box than PCs come to think of it.
As for the 8086 and 80186+187 it was much more expensive than the 68k new kids on the block and 286 was mainframe prices, and anyway PCs needed another 5 years to exceed Agnus/Denise/Paula specs with VGA and SB16 too. And we won't even talk about Himen/XMS/EMS for DOS/Windows when I owned a 2.5mb multitasking A1000 in 87
And anyway I'll take Guy Kewney's (RIP technical editor for Personal Computer World magazine) words at the time who clearly stated it [A1000] was light years ahead of all machines from all other manufacturers in all areas (as did Byte) from FD capacity to microkernal code in the multitasking GUI OS over someone who can barely remember how bad IE+Windows was in 93/94/95 era for the sake of trolling and anti-amiga stance. OS/2 on the other hand....
Bless his little socks, he didn't even understand why it's pointless to compare hardware a decade out of step with something that just came out ie A4000+PPC vs i7 PC or A1000 vs IBM XT+PC Speaker+Hercules ISA graphics. My car out accelerates a 1952 Ferrari...doesn't mean squat in real terms
As for corporations using Windows and not Amigas....same reason nobody really bothered with the Mac/ST in corporate circles. A plain vanilla x86 office DOS box = Windows box = same engineers to support IT hardware/same software and servers and so change on massive <> likely. Mac and Amiga are nothing like PC architecture or OS support terms AND the cost of adding 4mb to run Win 3.x to PCs is cheaper than buying everyone an Amiga 2000/3000 or Mac LC3 AND sending engineers off to be retrained and staff in software training course costs and then changing the entire IT infrastructure. If this was ever going to happen it would have been mid 80s with the A1000 or original Mac. But we all know how good Commodore were at marketing and sales........ Truth is the ST and Mac were better than the PC in 85...let alone Amiga.
And just as a final note for those who missed it, Arkhan's exact comments were that the NEC PC-Engine (Turbo Grafix 16 in USA) had superior sound hardware to the Amiga because "Shadow of the Beast on PC-E CD has better music than the A500 version" and "it has 6 channels not 4 so it's better" in a thread about why were programming standards so low for Amiga coin-op conversions worldwide compared to other machines/consoles so all off topic trolling anyway. This of course is putting aside the fact the Rib's awesome MODs on Super Stardust (software 6 channel sound with FX on game) are far superior to anything I've heard on a Genesis/SNES/PC-E and that those exact same MOD tunes have been cleaned up and offered as downloadable content for the PS3 game Stardust HD as an alternative soundtrack.
