Amiga vs PC

[halvliter'n]

Amiga Rules!!!1

[Arkhan]

Amiga Rules!!!1

lookout brother.  anymore post-content and you might blow up the internets!

3 jawesome posts all in one thread. YOU ARE ON A ROLL.

[kd7ota]

Been awhile since I posted on Amiga.org.. I do check this site every now and then, but then this thread has been up for a few days, so figured I would throw more into the fire.

As far as the Amiga vs PC argument.. Pointless.  I remember growing up I was a die-hard Amiga fan.  This being as a kid up until I was 17 or 18, when I realized times were switching fast. Now im 24, and I hardly use Amiga anymore. I still have my A1200 in pieces in the closet. Had to replace capacitors that leaked, but managed to get it running.

For what I do, there could be no way I could do all my work on an Amiga.  Even something as simple as signing onto facebook or webcam with my friends and family. Does the Amiga do that?  Sure eventually they could make a client to do such things, but it would be painful.

Maybe I want to play Team Fortress 2 with a few buddies online while we are all on Skype or Ventrillo... I know my Amiga would never do that.

Sure if your comparing an ancient 486 and Windows 3.11, id pick the Amiga up any day, but we are talking for today's standards..  No Amiga programs could ever touch the features/abilities of that on PCs today.  Sure you might be able to do something good or produce something worthwhile on your Amiga, but it will take awhile...

If an Amiga fits your needs, then cool.  Nobody should even be wasting their time to try to convince you otherwise.  I just know your Amiga will not do Flash, Java, or even be able to ever play a 1080P movie.  When I say doing any of them, I mean without conflicts. Even try to play a simple game like Runescape.. Go ahead, go try to load it up on the Amiga and let me know if you're successful.

Let this thread go to rest.  The only reason why I like visiting Amiga.org is because I have a soft spot for the Amiga since I grew up on it as a kid.  Ill definately play a game of Shadow of the Beast, Agony, Benefactor, Deluxe Galaga, Deluxe Pacman, Rise of the Dragon, Willy Beamish, Kings Quest 4, Lemmings, Push-Over, Body Blows Galactic, Second Samaurai, Nitro, Overdrive, or Leander.

Amiga was good for its time no question, but for today? Forget it.

[halvliter'n]

Amiga RULES!!!!!!!

[persia]

This thread went the far side of pointless at least six pages ago, yet it continues to gather posts.....

[runequester]

Computer stuff all depends on what you do with it.

I use my amiga as much, time wise, as I do my linux PC. I just do different things on them

On the PC, I play a few games (Nexuiz, Steel Panthers WW2 and MBT, Battle for Wesnoth) and browse the web. Also listen to OGG or MP3 files.

On the amiga, I play old games (too many to mention), mess around with Dpaint etc. Listen to MOD files.

Word processing I can do on either without too much fuss.

Been awhile since I posted on Amiga.org.. I do check this site every now and then, but then this thread has been up for a few days, so figured I would throw more into the fire.

As far as the Amiga vs PC argument.. Pointless.  I remember growing up I was a die-hard Amiga fan.  This being as a kid up until I was 17 or 18, when I realized times were switching fast. Now im 24, and I hardly use Amiga anymore. I still have my A1200 in pieces in the closet. Had to replace capacitors that leaked, but managed to get it running.

For what I do, there could be no way I could do all my work on an Amiga.  Even something as simple as signing onto facebook or webcam with my friends and family. Does the Amiga do that?  Sure eventually they could make a client to do such things, but it would be painful.

Maybe I want to play Team Fortress 2 with a few buddies online while we are all on Skype or Ventrillo... I know my Amiga would never do that.

Sure if your comparing an ancient 486 and Windows 3.11, id pick the Amiga up any day, but we are talking for today's standards..  No Amiga programs could ever touch the features/abilities of that on PCs today.  Sure you might be able to do something good or produce something worthwhile on your Amiga, but it will take awhile...

If an Amiga fits your needs, then cool.  Nobody should even be wasting their time to try to convince you otherwise.  I just know your Amiga will not do Flash, Java, or even be able to ever play a 1080P movie.  When I say doing any of them, I mean without conflicts. Even try to play a simple game like Runescape.. Go ahead, go try to load it up on the Amiga and let me know if you're successful.

Let this thread go to rest.  The only reason why I like visiting Amiga.org is because I have a soft spot for the Amiga since I grew up on it as a kid.  Ill definately play a game of Shadow of the Beast, Agony, Benefactor, Deluxe Galaga, Deluxe Pacman, Rise of the Dragon, Willy Beamish, Kings Quest 4, Lemmings, Push-Over, Body Blows Galactic, Second Samaurai, Nitro, Overdrive, or Leander.

Amiga was good for its time no question, but for today? Forget it.

[kd7ota]

Not to thread hijack, but Nexuiz is a great game! Fun!

[runequester]

Not to thread hijack, but Nexuiz is a great game! Fun!

Im not particularly great at it, but it always seemed to carry the torch of the likes of Unreal Tournament, setting out to deliberately not be "grey and brown realism!!!". Just fun levels with fun weapons

[RayTech70]

Think about it: the PC is not a relic, but it is still designed upon a relic standard.  Take a brand new workstation that has a floppy disk drive in it (as many servers do) and try accessing the drive when the drive is empty.

The PC will give it's entire life to try and read a nonexistent floppy.

I would say the PC is overdue for a redesign: when Google comes out with its seconds boot will be the beginning of a whole new PC era... so, relic or no, the PC is still using the same design architecture as the 286.

The Amiga approach was stellar and very powerful in its day and age and today's equivalent would be a Sony Playstation or X-Box... leaving the PC in the dust when it comes to moving data to and from the bus.

[Karlos]

the PC is still using the same design architecture as the 286.

Hmm, let's see. Current x86-64 architecture and supporting components:

16-bit ALU? Nope.
External FPU? Nope.
Segmented memory? Nope.
ISA slots? Nope.
Mono/CGA/EGA video? Nope.

In my previous job, none of the server machines bought in the 4 years I was there had a floppy drive, nor did most of the already installed ones. USB or CD only. Most had their OS installed via a bootimage on a USB or CD and used a network based install procedure.

[the_leander]

Think about it: the PC is not a relic, but it is still designed upon a relic standard.  Take a brand new workstation that has a floppy disk drive in it (as many servers do) and try accessing the drive when the drive is empty.

The PC will give it's entire life to try and read a nonexistent floppy.

I would say the PC is overdue for a redesign: when Google comes out with its seconds boot will be the beginning of a whole new PC era... so, relic or no, the PC is still using the same design architecture as the 286.

The Amiga approach was stellar and very powerful in its day and age and today's equivalent would be a Sony Playstation or X-Box... leaving the PC in the dust when it comes to moving data to and from the bus.

There are no words for this level of stupid.

[halvliter'n]

Razter, bobs and sprites!

[Thorham]

PeeCee is just you trying to be cool.

No, I'm not trying to be cool

I think you're done.

I am indeed done with these useless posts

[halvliter'n]

Who the freak has vomit on my floor?!

[fishy_fiz]

Sheesh, what is it with some of you people.... never learned basic manners or courteousies? Also to those who seem to be driven to point out amigas shortcomings,... you do realise that most people are aware of these "problems" don't you?  Some people simply dont care and enjoy what the Amiga gives them.... I read over and over again posts by people who seem to think theyre enlightening people,... too arrogant to realise that theyre not the only ones who know what it is they point out.
I understand that this thread is a comparitive thing, so in some ways is probably the place for comparisons, but the tone and attitude some people here take based on things they "know" is quite childish and rude... ever heard of the concept of discussing things without resorting to stupidity ?  I wont name people, but I suspect those who are responsible already know it, so it's not necessary.

Rant aside, I like Amiga OS,.... knowing the system inside out and being able to easily customise it to my hearts content. Simple, effective, user friendly, fun software is sometimes a better option than needlessly complicated software. I'll personally use the right tool for a job, be it on Amiga, Windows, or other options..... I'll happily be content just being content without the need to complain about shortcomings of software I dont use..... each to thier own though.

[koaftder]

There are no words for this level of stupid.

That's not even fair. Having recently had to write bootstrap code his post is pretty spot on albeit from a specific and narrow perspective.