AmigaDE for Pegasos PPC website

[mantisspider]

what about applogising for simply being rude,
the biggest doors open to smallest keys, yes thank you and if you please.

oh and ur avatar looks like what eddie the eagle edwards is up to, so that cant be all that bad.

[Tomas]

i totally agree with Glaucus..

[bhoggett]

@Glaucus

Might I suggest you read a thread fully before jumping in feet first?

The "entrenched position" refers to Amiga Inc's stance over AmigaDE. As long as their position is "no deal" then no negotiations or compromises are possible.

The rest of your post simply repeats what I've already said, and then goes on to apparently class me as a MOS fanatic. It amazes me that people like you seem outraged by Genesi's tactics, but had no complaints to make when Fleecy threatened legal action left, right and center and Ben Hermans made all sorts of allegations about illegal code, when neither was prepared to put up any evidence to back their claims. Why are Genesi dirty tricks so terrible and Amiga Inc ones go without comment or even get vociferous backing by certain people?

Too many people with double standards are under the delusion that they have the moral high ground.

[that_punk_guy]

Tomas wrote:

People bashed amigainc for the idea of AmigaDE, but still they want it? makes no sense

I suppose it's just oneupmanship. I don't see myself investing in either of the two main PPC solutions, the way things are. People's attitudes in this community stink.

Edit: Some people. Others are doing positive things, like the AROS team, for example.

[Glaucus]

The rest of your post simply repeats what I've already said, and then goes on to apparently class me as a MOS fanatic.

Okay, for that I'm sorry as I do respect you, and I was not trying to imply that you are a fanatic of any kind. In fact, the only part directed at you was the entrenched part. And what I meant by that is, sure Amiga Inc is adamantly refusing to give out AmigaDE to it's number one competitor. But at the same time, the MOS team is equally entrenched in their fight to get the DE - a technology that is more or less dead and has always been bashed by the MOS fanatics - from Amiga Inc. In other words, they are both equally locked in their own private struggle, there's no need to make it seem like the MOS team is somehow more reasonable on this particular issue.

  - Mike

[Elektro]

[Coder]

@Elektro

That's so funny! I cannot stop laughing. :-)

Coder

[Paul_Gadd]

AmigaDE is a dead end project which offers nothing to anyone so why Bill are you after that piece of sh!t?

I could understand if it was a ploy to get those criminals at Amiga Inc to go bankrupt which would be great but if you seriously want that POS AmigaDE you must have more money than sense or have good plans for it.

Explain.

[Coder]

DE is still not going anywhere. It sounds all very nice but it is still mostly talk then actually showing something. What's different about it now then 1 year ago? Yeah, 1 year has passed, haha. I guess we have to wait and see what will come out of it.

Coder
Don't talk but do something (geen woorden maar daden, right Kees? ;-) )

[redfox]

@Elektro

:roflmao:
Elektro, I don't remember which "side" you are on in this silly war, but that is the best response I've seen yet.

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redfox

[bhoggett]

@Glaucus

Who is and who is not in the right regarding DE will eventually be decided by the court. There is a contract involved, after all, and if the court decides that contract is breached, then Genesi are perfectly entitled to enforce it, whatever their ulterior motives may be.

The reason I'm singling out Amiga Inc on the issue is because so far they are the ones who have made it plain they will not negotiate. I haven't heard anything to suggest Genesi would not accept an out-of-court settlement if Amiga Inc were prepared to consider a compromise.

You seem to saying that Genesi are inflexible for not dropping the matter altogether. I would respectfully suggest that is not how compromises work. For one side to give up something, the other side must do so too.

I suspect we can all speculate about Genesi's real motives for pursuing the matter, but I submit those are irrelevant. Given the opportunity does anyone have any doubt Amiga Inc would try to damage Genesi if the tables were turned?

(I should add that I would very much like to see the court decide on the matter on the merits of the evidence presented, and not as a result of a default situation. A default judgement would only leave the impression that the result was obtained by manipulation of the justice system, rather than a manifestation of justice itself. At the same time interminable delays are intolerable and cannot be allowed to continue. A final resolution is desperately needed)

[bhoggett]

@Coder

re: AmigaDE

What's different about it now then 1 year ago?

The difference between now and one year ago is the same as the difference between now and two years ago, and not a significant improvement over that from three years ago.

I seriously doubt the addition of AmigaDE capabilities would add anything of value to any OS, be it AmigaOS4 or MorphOS.

[gary_c]

Glaucus wrote:

Also, this website about generic PPC systems, as bbrv would like you believe, highlights the AmigaDE - which as far as I am aware of DOES NOT EXIST FOR THE PPC. In fact, it has only been marketted for the x86 market.

AmigaDE for PPC depends on intent for PPC, doesn't it? And according to the intent 2 whitepaper, intent RTOS does support PowerPC. So it shouldn't be much of a trick to implement AmigaDE on PPC, if somebody sees a good reason to do it.

I'm not altogether sure what the motive was to set up a Genesi AmigaDE-for-PPC web site at this time; I imagine a combination of things. But the reason AmigaDE hasn't gone anywhere for several years is, I think, mainly Amiga, Inc. There is still a market for some kind of common API on mobile devices. I just got a Java-capable cell phone and was checking out what was available for it. I was surprised to find that Java games, etc. have to be 'ported' explicitly to each kind of device due to screen resolution differences, etc. I'm a newbie in mobile devices but if this is true, then there seems to be potential for something like intent, and maybe AmigaDE if it really does extend intent in a way that matters. Maybe it makes sense to consider an "AmigaDE" kind of thing apart from the context of the failing IP holder.

-- gary_c

[FuZion]

@ Gary_C,

You took the words right out of my mouth!

I see a LOT of people here blasting about how crap DE is (It's not even here) whereas I think the theory of it is fantastic.

I'm not happy to see all this flamin going on again, but then it has been a while.

I notice bbrv has disappeared after the first page. Congratulations, you have suceeded!



What's the matter? OS4 getting too close & have to try messing with peoples mind? Pff, I'm off to see how it's looking tomorrow at the Micro Mart thing at the NEC so knackers to your games!



Seriously though. IF it's real, just f*****g do it. If people like it, they'll but it won't they?

[GGS]

Hi lempkee ;-)

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i wonder what had happend if someone did this to MOS or whatever..

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Mos ?, you are talking about MorphOS, aren't you ?

Well, I believe noone should have anything against that, at least not Genesi... as more sites and as more who talks about MorphOS as better you know ;-)

[GGS]

Hi Glaucus ;-)

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Why single out Amiga Inc.... etc...

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Well, isn't that good you think... more sites given notice to and about Amiga & then also AmigaDE.... ;-)

I don't know where you got this with entrenched from... ?