Problems with first-time setup of WinUAE

[garyg]

I had MacUAE 0.86 working on my G3 (later upgraded to G4) Wall Street Powerbook.

Now I have two late-model Macintoshes, both with Parallels and Windows 7 on a partition.

I installed WinUAE and copied over the Amiga ROM image from the Powerbook but WinUAE doesn't recognize it. Does anyone have any idea why?

[kolla]

Not really, maybe winuae wants a magic filename ending? I can check tomorrow, I dont have windows here atm.

[Thomas]

WinUAE doesn't recognize it

What makes you think so? If you have only one ROM file, it will always tell you that some other ROM files are missing. Just untick the "start in quickstart mode" checkbox, go to the ROM page and select your ROM file manually. Before you do this, go to the Paths page and check that all paths are correct, especially the ROM path. Also click on "Rescan ROMs" because the initial ROM scan does not always succeed.

[garyg]

What makes you think so? If you have only one ROM file, it will always tell you that some other ROM files are missing. Just untick the "start in quickstart mode" checkbox, go to the ROM page and select your ROM file manually. Before you do this, go to the Paths page and check that all paths are correct, especially the ROM path. Also click on "Rescan ROMs" because the initial ROM scan does not always succeed.

Well, I did that I got a pop-up giving me a list which kinds of ROMs were acceptable (it's possible I have a ROM from my A4000 - can they be 1Mb?) and got the animation of a hand inserting a disk, so I figured it was looking next for the OS (I forget what that animation means now since I have had working Amigas for 20 years). Indeed, in the configuration options I don't see a way to tell the program where the OS is, although I've placed it in the WinUAE folder

The next time I opened the program and hit Start I got a pop-up message, "You need to have a floppy disk (image file) in df0: to use the System ROM replacement", so I'm not sure it's recognizing the ROM after all. I also did a ROM rescan and it said none were available.

Is there a WinUAE-specific site with a bulletin board? All I found was an E-UAE (English Amiga Users UAE site)? There's no text file with the program other than the details of past versions of the program (e.g. bugs fixed)

[x303]

Well, I did that I got a pop-up giving me a list which kinds of ROMs were acceptable (it's possible I have a ROM from my A4000 - can they be 1Mb?) and got the animation of a hand inserting a disk, so I figured it was looking next for the OS (I forget what that animation means now since I have had working Amigas for 20 years). Indeed, in the configuration options I don't see a way to tell the program where the OS is, although I've placed it in the WinUAE folder

Looks like it's working. 'All' you have to do now is to make a boot partition under win and put the amiga files in there. And make winuae see this partition as harddrive.

The next time I opened the program and hit Start I got a pop-up message, "You need to have a floppy disk (image file) in df0: to use the System ROM replacement", so I'm not sure it's recognizing the ROM after all. I also did a ROM rescan and it said none were available.

Did you make a config name and press save ?

Is there a WinUAE-specific site with a bulletin board? All I found was an E-UAE (English Amiga Users UAE site)? There's no text file with the program other than the details of past versions of the program (e.g. bugs fixed)

Yes, it's here: http://eab.abime.net/forumdisplay.php?f=5

[jd997uk]

Try: http://eab.abime.net/
AFAIK, there is no official UAE board per se. This one seems busy enough.

[garyg]

Looks like it's working. 'All' you have to do now is to make a boot partition under win and put the amiga files in there. And make winuae see this partition as harddrive.

I had put all the Amiga-related files (WinUAE, kick.rom, and WB 3.1 folder copied over from my old Powerbook) into one WinUAE folder. But I gather this is not the same as "make a boot partition under win...and make winuae see this partition as a hard drive". Can
you or someone tell me how to do it, or would you rather I ask further question at the EUAE website two of you so kindly directed me to?

Did you make a config name and press save ?

I have now :-)

[x303]

Can you or someone tell me how to do it, or would you rather I ask further question at the EUAE website two of you so kindly directed me to?

Start winuae and press 'help', right lower button. Then go to the 'winuae for first time users' section. This should help quite a bit.

[garyg]

Start winuae and press 'help', right lower button. Then go to the 'winuae for first time users' section. This should help quite a bit.

The problem is that Help is ghosted when I start up. If I press start it takes me to a black screen, telling me "You need to have a floppy disk (image file) in df0: to use the System ROM replacement" but that screen has no Help button.

I opend Floppy Disks and chose df0: and named it empty but that didn't satisfy WinUAE

On the positive side I managed to navigate to the hardfile I copied over from my Powerbook and selected it.

[Thomas]

WinUAE does not remember settings automatically. You always have to go to the Configurations page and click on Save after you changed something. Also it only loads the default configuration. If you gave it another name you have to load it manually everytime you run WinUAE.

So what you have to do now, go to the ROMs page and select your ROM file again. Then go to the Harddrives page, click on Add Directory Or Archive and on Select Directory, then select the directory where the WB 3.1 files are in (not the .ROM file, but the C, Devs, Libs etc. directories).

After that go to the Configurations page, enter Default into the name field and click on Save. Only now click on Start.

From now on WinUAE will automatically load the config because it's called "Default". But whenever you change something, you have to go to the Configurations page and click on Save, otherwise the change will be removed when you quit WinUAE and run it again.

[x303]

The problem is that Help is ghosted when I start up

Which version are you using ? If you have the latest, plz report this bug to Tony.
Hope these explanations help a bit more: http://guide.abime.net/home3.htm & http://guide.abime.net/wb3.1/chap1.htm

[garyg]

I'm almost there, Thomas. I did all that (I think, correctly) and a page appeared with the Commodore system information at the top and on the line below:

1>

It's been so long I've forgotten what to do in this situation or what problem is means.
I tried several commands but the only one that it accepted that I remembered was "endcli".

Any idea what I might have done wrong?

Oh, I did some research and found that normally typing loadwb will...load Workbench,
but in this situation when I type it I got a response "unknown command"

WinUAE does not remember settings automatically. You always have to go to the Configurations page and click on Save after you changed something. Also it only loads the default configuration. If you gave it another name you have to load it manually everytime you run WinUAE.

So what you have to do now, go to the ROMs page and select your ROM file again. Then go to the Harddrives page, click on Add Directory Or Archive and on Select Directory, then select the directory where the WB 3.1 files are in (not the .ROM file, but the C, Devs, Libs etc. directories).

After that go to the Configurations page, enter Default into the name field and click on Save. Only now click on Start.

From now on WinUAE will automatically load the config because it's called "Default". But whenever you change something, you have to go to the Configurations page and click on Save, otherwise the change will be removed when you quit WinUAE and run it again.

[Thomas]

Which version are you using ? If you have the latest, plz report this bug to Tony.

Nonsense! The Help button is ghosted when the help file is missing. The help file is not maintained by Toni Wilen. You can download it here: http://www.pcguru.plus.com/uae_faq.html

I'm almost there, Thomas. I did all that (I think, correctly) and a page appeared with the Commodore system information at the top and on the line below:

1>

You are booting from the wrong harddrive or you didn't add your system harddrive.

The first drive in WinUAE's harddrives list is the one which boots. You can rearrange the list by drag & drop so that your system drive becomes the first one.

A correctly installed Workbench should look like in the attached hardcopy. In the example the directory to add to WinUAE is "C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Dokumente\Amiga Files\System\dir\System".

If the startup files are missing, only an empty DOS window will appear as you described above. There is nothing you can do there because the commands are missing, too.

If you want to install a new Workbench, you need to insert ADF files of the installation disks into the emulated floppy drives.

Edit: the stupid forum software reduced the size of the hardcopy so that you cannot read anything. I've added a zipped version of the original picture file.

[x303]

The Help button is ghosted when the help file is missing. The help file is not maintained by Toni Wilen. You can download it here: http://www.pcguru.plus.com/uae_faq.html

Must have been a long time ago since got it. Totally forgot i downloaded it.

[garyg]

OK, thanks again Thomas. It seems I had "Workbench 3.1" as hd0: and my hardfile as hd1:  I just deleted the Workbench volume and renamed my hardfile as hd0: and it boots into Workbench (although it doesn't allow me to give the volume a name).
I also installed the Help file so I have a lot of reading to do.
Right now, the only problem seems to be that I can't access Amiga menus in the emulation: I launched Diskmaster, but can't access the drop-down menu to quit the program - I have to quit the entire emulation.
I also played with the RAM settings a bit, bumping them up to 2 Mb chip and 8 Mb fast. I'd like to be able to use the A4000 motherboard fast ram settings to get some more RAM but I guess I'll have to explore the helpfile to do that (I've got a 2.4 Gb CPU and about 1.7 Gb of RAM dedicated to the Windows 7 emulation; perhaps I should try Hi-Torro and just do the emulation directly in Mac OSX?