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A1200 boot problem - help!
« on: August 01, 2010, 10:22:42 PM »
I have an A1200 (towered) w/ Blizzard 060 accel and the associated SCSI kit.  I also have a flicker fixer and PCMCIA ethernet card.

I power on or hard boot the system (reset button in tower) and it just stays black screened after a flicker of color (flicker fixer ROM?).  If I double-mouse-hold, I get the boot menu and if I choose boot w/ no SS, it boots right to the CLI just fine.

It won't boot if I don't do that.

What is going on here?  I can get a dir listing of the 2GB HD just fine, when it boots to CLI.

(Tomorrow my X-Surf card gets here for my A2000 and I need to use this A1200 (w/ Genesis) as a bridge to get the A2000 all setup.)

Thanks.



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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2010, 10:28:22 PM »
Are you sure that you have a correct boot disk DH0:?
Seems like you have not ticked "bootable" for this partition with HDToolbox.
You should also try to boot from a floppy to see what happens.
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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2010, 10:40:20 PM »
Quote from: Xanxi;573020
Are you sure that you have a correct boot disk DH0:?
Seems like you have not ticked "bootable" for this partition with HDToolbox.
You should also try to boot from a floppy to see what happens.


Am sure.  Also -- it VERY rarely does work.  It used to do this like 50% of the time.  Now it does it almost always.



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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2010, 10:49:31 PM »
Boot without startup-sequence, in the cli type "set echo on" and "execute s:startup-sequence", notice where it hangs and do appropriate actions to fix it.
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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2010, 10:55:46 PM »
Quote from: blakespot;573022
Am sure.  Also -- it VERY rarely does work.  It used to do this like 50% of the time.  Now it does it almost always.



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Hi blakespot sound's like to me if this 'not booting up problem' is occuring 50% of the time, that it could be your power supply not having enough juice or being on its way out. You should try disconnecting as many things as possible eg:- cd/dvd drives and trying booting up with the least amount of hardware to see if the system boot up easily.

If so then put back your extra hardware one at a time until the boot up problem reoccurs and if this is the case then you'll need a bigger power supply.

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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2010, 01:46:54 AM »
or ur HD may be about to shit itself.

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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2010, 06:48:14 PM »
Hm, now I can't even get to the boot menu - just dark screen.  Could this be the flicker fixer?



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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2010, 03:37:20 AM »
WTF?

So I remove the flicker fixer -- hook up 1084S.  I unplug the HD.  I just boot.

A1200 + Blizzard 060 + SCSI Kit.

STILL black screen -- no floppy insert notice!  But, I can occasionally boot a floppy if it's in the drive.

WTF??




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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2010, 03:48:03 AM »
It's looking more and more likely that your power supply is on the way out, have you tried removing as much hardware as possible, like I mentioned before and if you have, double check all socketed chips and connectors just in case somethings loose. :)
 

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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2010, 04:07:26 AM »
It has just occurred to me that your using a similar set up to mine...

A1200 Blizzard060/PPC 60Mhz/240Mhz / 256 Meg Ram / 2 500Gb HD's /2 DVD burners / FASTATA MKII

I had forgoten that I too had the same problems as you (it was almost 5 years ago). When I first got the Blizzard board I tried it in one of my desktop A1200's. Same thing, sometimes worked sometimes didn't mostly a black screen. I desoldered the connector and fitted a new one (not an easy task).

Still had the same probs, Then I built a tower and stuffed everything in there. Now here's the thing, I used the power supply from one of my old A2000's, It worked but still quite randomly the black screen problems and such kept popping up.

I finally solved the problem by putting in a new bigger power supply and have never had any problem to this day (fingers crossed). If I recall the A1200 supply was around 200Watts, which you would think would be enough but with the new PSU I put in 350Watts the problem was solved.

It was all down to the -12Volts. On the old A2000 PSU it only gave out a max of -12V at .5amps (if i recall correctly) while on the new 350Watt PSU the -12V supply is 1.5Amps.

Like I said since then I have run the above setup and never seen the problem since.

Dunno why I didn't remember sooner, guess I must have managed to forget about it.

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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2010, 06:21:01 AM »
It's a PC power supply in a tower.  I don't think that's it.  

Not sure what's up tho.



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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2010, 07:30:59 AM »
99% towered amiga's problems are because powersuply.

Your problems seems to be quite magical, so powersuply or exsorcist.

Do you insert more power to mobo with floppy disk powerconnector?
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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2010, 10:48:25 AM »
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99% towered amiga's problems are because powersuply.


Yup !!! 110% convinced it's the power supply (it solved my problems)... :)
 

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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2010, 01:24:39 PM »
Hmm.  I can give a PSU swap a try.  I have two PSU's sitting here I could swap in.  Sadly, there's that custom A1200 power plug adapter that's glue-bonded together that came with this Noblesse A1200 specialty case.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/blakespot/2372320362/in/set-72157604300573758/
( seen @ the bottom right, there )

I am handy w/ a soldering iron though, and can cut / splice that onto the replacement PSU's line with little problem.

I should be feeding power to the A1200's floppy power lead?  Not sure if that's happening right now.



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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2010, 02:03:21 PM »
Ok, I pulled the PSU and opened it up.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/blakespot/4856309117/in/set-72157604300573758/

Leaky caps, and two smaller caps are slightly bulged...

So I've got a working, standard ATX PSU in there all wired up, but the PSU that came with this Mediator A1200T case from Revanche LLC has a little two-wire line running out that ties to the front of the case power switch (since it's not gonna detect it from the mobo, as it would with a PC).  

What do I do to get this standard ATX supply to soft-switch on?  The little line runs under the board of the old PSU and I'm not too keen on handling the board directly to see where it runs.  Is there a way to wire something up to the main ATX header (which is not being used on this Amiga setup)?

Thanks.




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