found some nice Amiga 3D stickers for our cases!

[klx300r]

Just bought these very nice quality case stickers for my Samflex case and keyboard mainly but also to slap onto my monitor and my work notebook too ;-) ..they have many other Amiga logos too

The Ebay store is called Hardware Shuttle and I am very happy with their customer service and quick shipping time..oh and the price is great at $1 each too

[cv643d]

Nice!

[the_leander]

Nice!

Indeed they are! Very tastefully done. Nice find sir.

[amigakit]

Any one that produces unlicensed products has not paid a licensing fee for the items they are selling. This disadvantages the businesses that goto great expense to pay for licensing.

Another example are Ebay sellers that sell Amiga 4GB CF IDE drives with unlicensed copied games/AmigaOS pre-installed on them.   Legitimate Amiga dealers could not do this but they are being disadvantaged by these individuals (who also dont pay any business taxes).

[the_leander]

Given the state of who owns what with regards Amiga. Even if one were so inclined to try to get licensing, who exactly would you go to for it?

Hyperion owns some of it, A.Inc owns some.

If the latter, well A.Inc doesn't really exist as a company any more.

[KThunder]

In other words if you want a cool amiga product that someone is actually selling, buy it now before the people who own the copyrights, but aren't selling crap, find a way to shut them down.

If it means more cool amiga stuff actually for sale, I hope amiga inc. doesn't exist.

[amigakit]

@KThunder
I understand what you are saying.  The more official products available- the better for all of us.

@Leander
A good place to start would be Hyperion

[Karlos]

@Leander
A good place to start would be Hyperion

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Hyperion have the rights to the name AmigaOS, rather than Amiga?

[amigakit]

Thats correct: I believe they can use AmigaOne, AmigaOS and Boing Ball image

[Karlos]

Thats correct: I believe they can use AmigaOne, AmigaOS and Boing Ball image

Hmm. To he honest, the rainbow tick was always my favourite

Unfortunately, the Escom era AMIGA text. It burns!

[amigakit]

I also share the pain of missed potential during the years after Commodore :-)

[the_leander]

Thats correct: I believe they can use AmigaOne, AmigaOS and Boing Ball image

However this is as stated the Escom era Amiga name, not AmigaOne or AmigaOS.

Which puts a person in the position of dealing with a non existent company.

As for the Boing Ball image... I'd have to look into that. AFAIK that is still Amiga.inc's.

But regardless. The whole situation is a complete mess from start to finish.

Perhaps given that you've seen some demand and are apparently licensed, you might want to offer a competing "official" range of $1 stickers?

[amigakit]

The Boing Ball needs Hyperion's authority.  Hyperion are very much a current company.

Yes I agree, the situation has been fragmented and messy for years.

Even if Amiga Inc are a dormant business entity, their IP is still protected.  Although I fully understand that us in the Amiga community have been here for many years through the bad times and supported the true ethos of the Amiga computer and OS (regardless of whom owns the IP).

I dont see any difference between selling, for example, copied Workbench disks and unlicensed Amiga merchandise.  But if a link to a person selling copied Workbench disks were posted on Amiga.org, it would be removed immediately..  just another perspective?

[the_leander]

The Boing Ball needs Hyperion's authority.  

Without wanting to be difficult, can you point to where this is the case?

I dont see any difference between selling, for example, copied Workbench disks and unlicensed Amiga merchandise.  But if a link to a person selling copied Workbench disks were posted on Amiga.org, it would be removed immediately..  just another perspective?

The problem is that Amiga.Inc are a dead company, or if we're being generous, currently not available to contact. So even if Hyperion has the rights for the Boing Ball, using the name AMIGA is still problematic.

Now again, given that you are apparently fully licensed already and that there is a market for $1 sticky labels with the domed transparent rubber finish, what exactly is there to stop you from offering an official, sanctioned product?

It's all well and good bitching about "unlicensed merchandise" and how it effects legit businesses. But if you aren't offering anything that is competing with your product base, it does come across as somewhat hollow. And that sir, is the difference between this and a set of workbench disks that you do stock.

[amigakit]

If we spend the time to set up the licensing and pay the royalty fee for stickers, that would have to be factored into the final selling price.  If we sold at the same rate at other unlicensed sellers, we would have greater costs to market.  Would this be fair?

Here is the link:
http://www.hyperion-entertainment.biz/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=134:hyperion-entertainment-cvba-and-amiga-inc-reach-settlement&catid=38:corporate&Itemid=18

Within the framework of the settlement agreement Hyperion is granted an exclusive, perpetual, worldwide right to AmigaOS 3.1 in order to use, develop, modify, commercialize, distribute and market AmigaOS 4.x (and subsequent versions of AmigaOS including without limitation AmigaOS 5) in any form, on any medium and for any current or future hardware platform under the exclusive trademark “AmigaOS” (Amiga operating system) and using other associated trademarks (such as the “BoingBall” logo).