ShapeShifter and MacOS8

[sniken]

Hi!

I'm currently using ShapeShifter and MacOS7 successfully. I thought I 'd try installing MacOS8 (8.1). However, when booting it on my real Amiga (CSPPC & CVPPC with OS3.9 BoingBag 1-4) it crashes, hangs and then restarts my Amiga, when it's about to load the Finder. It makes no difference if I hold down SHIFT key to skip extensions. Also, the MacOS8 mode is set.

Running MacOS8 with the same settings in ShapeShifter in E-UAE works just fine, but crashes at loading Finder in BasiliskII for MacOS X and Amiga (real and E-UAE).

Any tip on where I should be looking for possible settings changes to make it work on the real Amiga?


Thanks.

[mpiva]

I remember having similar problems when I tried installing 8.1 in Shapeshifter a long time ago.  From what I recall, 8.0 worked with no problems but I never could get 8.1 to install properly.  I think I might have been able to pseudo-install 8.1 by installing most of it's components manually overtop of my 8.0 install.  Also, I think I had slightly more success with Fusion than Shapeshifter.

[mechy]

I managed to get macos8.1 to run under fusion 3.2 i think it was(maybe 3.1?),on my A4000 csppc. Never could get it to work on shapeshifter.I also seem to recall you had to install it for "any computer" and not a specific model like the quadras or it wouldn't work. its been a long time, hope this is correct information.

Mike

[stefcep2]

I did get 8.1 to work on a 68060 Cyberstorm 2 A4000.  There is something in 8.1 which conflicts with 68060.  Unfortunately I don't remember what.  BUT 8.1 is MUCH slower than 8.0 and I couldn't see the benefits over 8.0  Sorry not much help I know, but it was such a long time ago.  It does work though.

Yes you need a "general" version of the OS installed, not a specific model one.  And the ROM matters as well.

[ElPolloDiabl]

I was going to suggest the ROM. You can find a guide somewhere that tells you which MacOS works with which Mac computer (or rom). Sorry I don't have time to search for it.

[Piru]

There is something in 8.1 which conflicts with 68060. Unfortunately I don't remember what.

68060 superscalar mode must be disabled:

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cpu060 NOSUPERSCALAR

[pVC]

I'd remember that there was some mac networking component which caused problems with 8.1. Can't remember now which it was, but disabling it on MacOS helped

[Seiya]

Hi!

I'm currently using ShapeShifter and MacOS7 successfully. I thought I 'd try installing MacOS8 (8.1). However, when booting it on my real Amiga (CSPPC & CVPPC with OS3.9 BoingBag 1-4) it crashes, hangs and then restarts my Amiga, when it's about to load the Finder. It makes no difference if I hold down SHIFT key to skip extensions. Also, the MacOS8 mode is set.

could be the rom_updates
try to disable it to try MacOS 8.1

[sniken]

Thanks for all the replies. I've been able to try some of the suggestions.

Fusion, 3.2, just spend ages trying to load the HD image without getting anywhere. Confusing configuration too.

I've tried installing with no network component that i could chose in the MacOS setup, but wouldn't skiping the extensions be as affective? Though, no luck.

I grabbed the 060 utility from phase5.a1k.org, setting NOSUPERSCALAR. It didn't help, unfortunately.

All rom updates are stored on my DENEB Holding down L-mouse button to disable them had no affect. I also tried a clean OS3.1 install and just enough libraries needed to get ShapeShifter going, still no good.

All the various MacOS8.1 installations I've done works well in ShapeShifter/E-UAE, but all fail when loading Finder in BasiliskII (also failing in MacOSX) or ShapeShifter.

I'll just continue with System 7.5.5 for now. Maybe MacOS7.6.1 would work, if only I could find anyone selling it.

[mpiva]

I thought everything up to (but not including) MacOS8 was free to download from Apple.

[sniken]

@mpiva

No, not all. However, System 7.5.5 is. http://lowendmac.com/macos.shtml

[zipper]

And update to 7.6.1 is somewhere, don't  remember where.

[ddniUK]

IIRC ShapeShifter options include an OS8 mode switch. I think it is in the miscellaneous options page... Did you try it?

[sniken]

@zipper

The MacOS7.6.1 update is from MacOS7.6.0. AFAIK, there is no update from System 7.5.5 to MacOS7.6.0. Maybe to do with the name changing (System to MacOS) to kill off the clones.

@ddniUK

Yes. I stated this in my original post.

[zipper]

Yes, probably I updated from 7.6 - can't remember; in every case 7.0 to 7.1 to 7.53 to7.55 to 7.6 to 7.61 a long chain. 7.6 is available at least here:
http://nbbemulation.free.fr/emumac/os7/OS76usa.zip and then update to 7.61 is easier to find.