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Re: Commodore Phoenix questions
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2010, 08:32:33 PM »
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It is such a shame to see the Commodore brand used once again in this way -- actually rather disgusting IMO.

I completely agree.
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Re: Commodore Phoenix questions
« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2010, 09:15:26 PM »
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You don't seem to understand the significance of a period/full stop in sentences do you.
Twisting my sentences is just silly. You know precisely what I meant and just want to stir the pot. His accusations of wrong doing are not only baseless but slanderous without evidence. Besides that, if you actually read what I've been saying, it's not a matter of me telling you I won't, it is a matter of me telling you I CAN'T. I can't divulge that information as much as I would like to, I can only tell you what I have observed. He said prove it...and I have told you I can't provide you with evidence due to confidentiality reasons. That's just too bad. I don't understand all the skepticism and right now I really don't care. Goodnight.


The lack of punctuation was to make it sound as stupid to you as it does to the rest of us.

Way to admit to stirring the pot.  SO MUCH FOR PROFESSIONALISM.


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Re: Commodore Phoenix questions
« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2010, 09:49:47 PM »
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And Bernd Korz of Yellowtab totally had an agreement with Palm regarding the licensing of Be Inc IP.

Right up until Palm turned around and pimp slapped him when they decided that the direction he was taking wasn't to their liking...


That's the danger, license can be revoked.

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Unless it is in writing, there is no proof of an agreement.


Depends on the law of the land,  Belgium, might be meaningless to have a verbal agreement, FL has a limited time (it's either 30 or 60 days) where verbal agreements are binding, if you can prove it was said.

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And with regard use, it is technically illegal if you aren't licensed to trade under a brand not your own.


It's technically illegal if the IP owners says it is.  If it's fine with the IP owner, it's not illegal.

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As you say however it would require the owners to act before it would be enforced unless it was a big ass company whose brand you were selling under.

As someone who got stung by Korz, I would never, ever again knowingly place myself in a situation of buying potentially infringing products.


I wouldn't have done it either, but I side on prudent and reasonable risk taking.  Barry has crawled too far out on that limb for my liking but if he and the IP owners are happy, good for him.

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Until Barry gets a licence sorted. Steer well clear.


For end users, it's not going to matter a hill of beans.  Resellers, OTOH, should take notice to stay away from that tar baby.
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Re: Commodore Phoenix questions
« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2010, 04:26:15 AM »
My solution has no wires, yours has a power cord to deal with.  Mine has an inexpensive keyboard and mouse that can be replaced when worn or damaged.  My keyboard is lighter, cooler to put on your lap.  Plus for the same money I can get a modern chip with 4 cores instead of two and running a faster cpu.  I can easily replace parts.

The Faux Commodore Invictus offers nothing yhat you can't do better and cheaper with a box and bluetooth.

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No one would suggest you would use a Commodore Phoenix for your lounge room, it is a desktop computer.
The Commodore Invictus which has wireless HDMI is better suited for the lounge room. ;-)
It would not require anything in the cabinet nor would you need to worry about purchasing wireless peripherals and a HDMI cable.
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Re: Commodore Phoenix questions
« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2010, 04:33:08 AM »
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The Faux Commodore Invictus offers nothing yhat you can't do better and cheaper with a box and bluetooth.


and a Commodore badge to make it "official"
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Re: Commodore Phoenix questions
« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2010, 01:28:11 AM »
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BTW I am not Barry. Through our correspondence and a few chats, I've come to know Barry as a straight up nice bloke, who doesn't deserve all the allegations of dishonesty you are making. You really don't know what you are talking about.


Really?

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Re: Commodore Phoenix questions
« Reply #35 on: August 23, 2010, 01:47:39 AM »
He nicked the Amiga Fantasy render from some years ago?

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Re: Commodore Phoenix questions
« Reply #36 on: August 23, 2010, 02:09:00 AM »
I think that we should let the IP owners worry about what is legal or not. If you don't think it is legal don't buy it. I really don't think it really matters too terribly much. None of the IP owners are tech powerhouses anymore, any advertising is a good thing I should think.

And by the way why is it when a Commodore or Amiga fan actually comes through and produces something we could all actually buy and enjoy someone goes and says it is disgusting. Is Minimig disgusting? or UAE, or Aros, or OS4? I think this stuff is cool.

I have a Commodore 90mhz pentium that I think is pretty cool. It was made after Amiga was split from commodore and there are very very few of them around. I've debated ripping out the guts and putting in a quadcore AMD system. Right now it is how it left commodore. Probably not a lot of people would want this computer, but I kinda like it.
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Re: Commodore Phoenix questions
« Reply #37 on: August 23, 2010, 02:22:56 AM »
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He nicked the Amiga Fantasy render from some years ago?


Nicked it, removed the "Amiga Fantasy" logo, the artist's name, and the mouse cable. (All rather poorly done, I might add.)

And best of all, claims it's going to be "Available late 2010".
 

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Re: Commodore Phoenix questions
« Reply #38 on: August 23, 2010, 02:25:34 AM »
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And by the way why is it when a Commodore or Amiga fan actually comes through and produces something we could all actually buy and enjoy someone goes and says it is disgusting. Is Minimig disgusting? or UAE, or Aros, or OS4? I think this stuff is cool.


This guy hasn't produced anything.
 

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Re: Commodore Phoenix questions
« Reply #39 on: August 23, 2010, 02:28:40 AM »
What are you talking about the phoenix looks nothing like the fantasy. The fantasy is all curved with a full grill along the top. The phoenix is square with the touchpad and speaker grills at the top.

I know you guys may not approve of this but lets not get carried away.

Oh wait I didn't actually check the commodore link you posted. Yeah that is the same. Maybe he and the original are the same guy or working together or something?
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Re: Commodore Phoenix questions
« Reply #40 on: August 23, 2010, 02:30:42 AM »
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This guy hasn't produced anything.


You can buy the Phoenix right now on the website, and a few people actually have.
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Re: Commodore Phoenix questions
« Reply #41 on: August 23, 2010, 02:33:31 AM »
There's a difference between reselling and producing.

...though I guess he may have produced the stickers!
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Re: Commodore Phoenix questions
« Reply #42 on: August 23, 2010, 02:37:24 AM »
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You can buy the Phoenix right now on the website, and a few people actually have.


There's a difference between reselling and producing.

...though he may have produced the stickers!
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Re: Commodore Phoenix questions
« Reply #43 on: August 23, 2010, 02:37:25 AM »
That Fantasy pic is pretty cool.
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Re: Commodore Phoenix questions
« Reply #44 from previous page: August 23, 2010, 02:38:45 AM »
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There's a difference between reselling and producing.

...though he may have produced the stickers!



So maybe we should skip anybody that wants to sell retro-styled computer stuff and just stick stickers on our Dells?
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