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Re: Cyberstorm PPC €1,049.00 on eBay!
« Reply #14 from previous page: July 06, 2010, 07:30:59 AM »
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one here for $700.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/Amiga-3000-4000-CyberStorm-PPC-68060-accelerator-/110551840121?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Computers_Vintage&hash=item19bd673579


Thanks. I saw that one too. But the more I think about it, I may be better off selling my A3000D with 040, CV64 and Fastlane along with my A2000D with 040 and Picasso II and buy a SAM to run OS4.1. Keep my A4000D for nostalgia.

I only really use the A3000D as a backup to the A4000D and I don't have time these days to play with the A2000D. I've also got a A1200 with Blizzard 030 that I don't use much either that I could off-load to someone who'd make use of it.

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Re: Cyberstorm PPC €1,049.00 on eBay!
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2010, 07:39:54 AM »
Cyberstorm PPC €1,049.00 on eBay
- that's about what I paid for mine some 12 years ago; pretty stable value...
 

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Re: Cyberstorm PPC €1,049.00 on eBay!
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2010, 09:01:50 AM »
doubt it will sell for that much.. but only because you can get them cheaper if you have some patience. they are for sure worth a load of cash for someone that really wants one. I was in the same boat a year ago. for me all the other options mentioned in this thread were no option and I do not regret my purchase.
 
this guy is trying out some ebay tactics though: by advertising it for loads of cash he is keeping the price up. people believe they are worth it and are bidding higher for similar items. look at what happened with the C64GS.
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Re: Cyberstorm PPC €1,049.00 on eBay!
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2010, 09:33:52 AM »
So did not one 060/233 version go for close to 1000 euros back in spring/late winter on the bay?

Yes a SAM make more sense, but lots of 68k apps wont work on a NG platform (OS4). So if you want to be able to run a mix of 68k/PPC apps a classic PPC is best option.
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Re: Cyberstorm PPC €1,049.00 on eBay!
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2010, 10:43:53 AM »
Tht is ridiculous.  I sold my CSPPC 6 or 7 years agor for about £250.  Are these people insane?
 

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Re: Cyberstorm PPC €1,049.00 on eBay!
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2010, 11:50:03 AM »
No, they are not.
I was always told that the price is the amount of money which buyer is ready to pay...
If the buyer is willing to pay 1000EUR - this is the price.
 

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Re: Cyberstorm PPC €1,049.00 on eBay!
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2010, 12:13:57 PM »
I'd be really interested to know how many people would buy CSPPC if the cards were still available in large quantity and if they were not expensive.
Is there a recent poll on this subject?

:)  Message to the Chinese factories (or HYPERION) :): thank you kindly to copy to the CSPPC model (same quality) but price divided by 5. In this case, I would take :banana: 2 units :banana:
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Re: Cyberstorm PPC €1,049.00 on eBay!
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2010, 01:18:53 PM »
Copying hardware is not a problem: if you will order about 1000pcs in China they will produce it for about 200EUR/pcs, no problem.
 
BUT:
The card will be useless as CPLD chips will not be programmed.
For your info: CPLD chip content is "locked" and cannot be simply read by some kind of reader (like EPROM or EEPROM); sorry.
These configuration files are stored in DCE basement forever.
DCE is very well aware that without these files none will copy the hardware.
 
So in short:
Without DCE support you will have 200kEUR worth bunch of completely useless (but yet nice looking) hardware.
 
Hyperion has nothing to do here.
 

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Re: Cyberstorm PPC €1,049.00 on eBay!
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2010, 01:48:42 PM »
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Copying hardware is not a problem: if you will order about 1000pcs in China they will produce it for about 200EUR/pcs, no problem.


Chinese industries can copy all in the world  ;)
 
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Hyperion has nothing to do here.


If more CSPPC available = more AOS4 users's...or we can wait the X1000 model at 2000/2500 Eur?
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Re: Cyberstorm PPC €1,049.00 on eBay!
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2010, 02:29:03 PM »
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Chinese industries can copy all in the world ;)

No.
They cannot copy Cyberstorm PPC nor Blizzard PPC, sorry.
phase5 protected their design in very clever way. :)
 
I'm sure there are also other things which cannot be copied easy.
 

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Re: Cyberstorm PPC €1,049.00 on eBay!
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2010, 03:43:41 PM »
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I'd be really interested to know how many people would buy CSPPC if the cards were still available in large quantity and if they were not expensive.
Is there a recent poll on this subject?

Well I have 4 A4000's, so if they would sell it around 250 euro's, I would order 4 of them.
 
On the note that the 060 is in a socket joined with a current IBM PPC also inserted in a socket and no more simms on it, modern DDR ram.
 
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Tht is ridiculous. I sold my CSPPC 6 or 7 years agor for about £250. Are these people insane?

That would be a more acceptable price yeah, I would even go a bit higher, but not much.
I also can't believe that people are willing to pay these amounts for a card that is more than 10 years old and it has quite a design flaw cause of the BGA if these go loose due to heat it's bye bye PPC.
So I'm going to sit back and wait untill someone offers me one below my limit.
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Re: Cyberstorm PPC €1,049.00 on eBay!
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2010, 05:31:27 PM »
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one here for $700.00
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/Amiga-3000-4000-CyberStorm-PPC-68060-accelerator-/110551840121?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Computers_Vintage&hash=item19bd673579

That card did just over 760 dollar / 600 euro, so I guess my maximum of 650 euro isn't so bad.
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