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Re: Source of 68060 chips?
« Reply #14 from previous page: November 26, 2003, 04:56:24 PM »
Yep! Motorola runs a batch or two of those whenever people run out of spareparts.
It's a nice CPU, but it's old, and no longer developed.
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Re: Source of 68060 chips?
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2003, 05:25:43 PM »
@Neko

Are you sure?  I do recall an 80Mhz model being out a few years ago.

But I don't keep up with 68k CPU's because there really is little point.  As you point out, the Coldfire is cheaper and faster for 68k apps, and the PowerPC is much faster in the same price range.
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Re: Source of 68060 chips?
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2003, 05:47:57 PM »
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Are you sure?  I do recall an 80Mhz model being out a few years ago.


You can find them up to 75MHz on the Motorola web site, but you have to search for 68060 to find any info.

 

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Re: Source of 68060 chips?
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2003, 05:59:49 PM »
Hello everyone

I had to stop lurking to warn you not to make a big mistake. Nobody should ever buy at vernalelm.com again.
They claim that they sell the full 060 and I ordered one for my csppc. It took 2 month or so and it didnt arrive, I had to write 2 or 3 emails until they sent me the cpu. Ok, I live in germany so it should take a bit but not that long. And as I opened the package I saw that it was the EC060! Although they claim to sell only the "full version"! I think another user on amiga.org had similar problems with them, so I wouldnt recommend vernalelm.com to anyone at all.
Sorry that my first post here sounds a bit rude, but i was very angry about these frauds because I spent all my money on the csppc and the 060.
 

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Re: Source of 68060 chips?
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2003, 06:10:07 PM »
Did you try it out? Put it in your 060 accelerator and run WhichAmiga system info report program and see if it reports a working MMU (find it on Aminet). If it does, it probably means that vernalelm.com may be selling EC labeled full 060.

Just an idea, and not a fact by all means. Let us know what happens.

I think I have a spare RC full 060 chip, however not sure if it works or not, if anyone needs it. :-)
 

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Re: Source of 68060 chips?
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2003, 06:40:22 PM »
@rayt:

If your 060 is an old one, made out of mask 01F43G (you can find the mask-numer in the upper right corner), then it should be a full 68060 with MMU and FPU even if it is printed EC on the processor. This is because in the beginning Motorola had only one mask for the 68060 and made all their chips out of it, just badged them differently.


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Re: Source of 68060 chips?
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2003, 06:50:07 PM »
@rayt
a friend of mine bought one and although it stated that it was an "EC" version, inside there was MMU and FPU.
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Re: Source of 68060 chips?
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2003, 08:20:02 PM »
Oh, I didnt know that there were full 060s with a wrong label on it. I didnt have a chance to try it out because my csppc I bought from ebay without 060 processor didnt work. I thought this could be because of the EC060 so I replaced it with a "real" 060 but it didnt work either. So I sold the EC060 on ebay (maybe the buyer is a lucky guy now) and sent the ppc card to hyperion for repair. If these EC060 was a "real" one, i withdraw what I said about vernalelm.com of course.
 

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Re: Source of 68060 chips?
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2003, 08:22:07 PM »
We'll never know, I guess... :whack:


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Re: Source of 68060 chips?
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2003, 08:47:08 PM »
Check these documents regarding 060 masks out:

Info about the 1F43G, 1G65V, 2G59Y and 0E41J masks
Info about the E41J mask

You can also find more mask information in the Motorola 68060 documentation under "Product Change Notices".


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Re: Source of 68060 chips?
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2003, 10:34:14 PM »
@Downix

Motorola has NEVER made a 68060 faster than the
cut-down 75mhz model (for commercial sales
anyhow).

They make full versions at 50 and 60mhz, reduced
versions at 66 and 75mhz. I doubt they will ever
produce anything else 68060 related at this point
(aside from what's already).

The latest (1999) mask revision of the full (50/60mhz)
version is reported to be stable at an OVERCLOCKED
speed of 100mhz.

The cheapest price I could find for one of the above
was over 300.00 USD new (for a single unit).